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Old 05-03-2005, 05:06 PM
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Federal LEO 12 Gauge Buckshot: Is 8 or 9 pellets best?




Was looking at 12-gauge Federal LEO buckshot and noticed that it comes in either 8 or 9 pellets. Which performs best for defensive purposes?
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:22 PM
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Personally, I think they are both excellent for defensive purposes. It is really not going to matter if its 8 or 9 pellets. The BG getting shot with it is not going to know the difference.
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:43 PM
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I wouldn't worry about 8 or 9 pellets. I would worry about which performs best in your shotgun for patterns.

Ranked in performance for me,

#1 Hornady TAP 8 pellet
#2 Speer 8 pellet
#3 Federal 8 pellet

The Hornady flat out beat the bunch in terms of tight patterns in my 870's. YMMV. Shotguns have their own tastes.

Get 2 or 3 boxes of assorted brands, get some target boards, and pattern at 7, 15, and 25 yards. Then you will now your POA v POI and know what ammo will do what.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:17 PM
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9 pellets for sure, I like the 4 buck 3" with 41 pellets at
close range, 1500 fps is a bad face full of.24 cal pellets.
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:13 AM
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00 or 000 Buck?

Since we're talking about 8 or 9 pellet 00 Buck loads, what's the general consensus on 9 pellet 00 Buck (.33cal) vs 8 pellet 000 Buck (.36cal)?

I personally stoke my 12ga with Federal 000 Buck (8 pellet), since the idea of hitting someone with (8) 9.14mm sized pellets seems like a quicker show stopper than (9) 8.38mm sized pellets.

Why is it that most LE agencies issue the standard 00 Buck?
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:40 AM
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tested and found that reduced recoil 8 pellet buck patterns best from our shotguns. When we were qualifying with the shotguns, we were given the opportunity to try both (reduced and full) and the difference was night and day. This is coming from an 870 too, but I believe each individual shotgun patterns in its own way and its up to the owner to discover which is best.
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Old 05-04-2005, 07:00 PM
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I have fired both, and believe both are more than capable. It boils down to which one patterns best in your barrel.

I disassembled one of each, and the 000 label is misleading. It is difficult to accurately measure buckshot because of the lack of uniformity. The best average I could come up with was that the 000 was .341", while the 00 was pretty close to the traditional .33".

Not that that is going to make that much difference. I just relate it in the interest of ballistic trivia.

FWIW, my Benelli likes the 000 a little better. It usually patterns about 8" at 25 yards with a Patternmaster choke tube. The 00 load usually does 8 1/2".

This causes me to some times lose a pellet if the only paper I have is 8 1/2" x 11" notebook paper.
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Old 05-04-2005, 07:27 PM
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FWIW, my Benelli likes the 000 a little better. It usually patterns about 8" at 25 yards with a Patternmaster choke tube. The 00 load usually does 8 1/2".

This causes me to some times lose a pellet if the only paper I have is 8 1/2" x 11" notebook paper.
I've experienced the same thing with my Mossberg 590A1 (cylinder bore). It would always produce a "flier" with the 9-pellet buckshot varieties. The 8-pellet loads (both 00 & 000) would usually group into 4 sub-groups (each set looked like a dumbell). At 15 yrds, the group was about 7-8" and the flier would usually be at about 9 o'clock & about 6" out.
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:40 PM
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Personally, I think they are both excellent for defensive purposes. It is really not going to matter if its 8 or 9 pellets. The BG getting shot with it is not going to know the difference.

agreed totally
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