I have been a fan of the 1911s for a long time now, and have been keeping up with some of the top manufacturers out there in terms of price and offerings. Why not a Sig 1911? I saw the Tac Ops which has practically all the features a 1911 can be dawned upon, for a extremely competitive price. It's like $900 for a Sig 1911 Tac Ops. A comparable Springfield's 1911 is i suppose the Trophy Match, which is cheaper than the TRP, which is the same price as the Operators, but the cheapest trophy match i found--new and used--is around $1,100 to $1,300 on gunbroker.com (therefore TRPs are like $1,300 to $1,500, and so on :barf. That's a huge difference!
For the same features the Tac Ops have, and a savings of over $400 dollars, why not?! I guess a good competitor, cheaper than the SA's would be Kimber's TLE/RL model, which i should add the SA's I mentioned is missing one feature for a higher premium:the picatinny rail. Kimber's TLE/RL has ALL the features comparable to Sig's Tac Ops but then is missing a good manufacturer's warranty to back it up.
There is one good reason i found throughout my researching: Sig's are not American made, therefore, not contributing to our GDP, but for $400 dollars, approximately, with all the additional features and front strap checkering the Tac Ops has, WHY NOT?!
All and any opinions feel free. My intention for my new 1911 is USPSA/IDPA. I know about the 43oz dilemma but i think recently IDPA has changed the rulebook to 43 oz. I also plan on buying STI's Spartan as a backup 1911. I currently own S&W's 4.25 scandium commander.
I apologize beforehand if I am wrong, but I don't understand the point of your post other than to create another x vs y vs z argument. Maybe I'm just tired and not reading clearly. Do you want us to give you reasons why you shouldn't buy a Sig?
If you can get past the issues above the Sig's are among the best deals out there for a 1911. 25LPI checkering, DLC over all stainless construction (or natural stainless if you prefer) and night sights on guns that cost several hundred less than comparable pistols from other manufacturers. All of that wouldn't mean much if they didn't shoot but they do. The fit an finish is way better than similarly priced pistols.
I also forgot to the OP's concern- Sig 1911's are made in Exeter New Hampshire so whoever is saying they are not made in USA is incorrect.
Sig makes an excellent 1911. Have an XO which I bought new in March and hit has already sent over 2,000 rounds down range and not one hiccup. Do they match the traditional expectations of a 1911 ... no. However, as 2transams pointed out ... it is a great shooter.
I recently bought a Tac Ops. It's a fantastic gun. It's the only railed gun I own. It was my first Sig! Now I own 6 and have another Sig 1911 on the way. Good stuff.
My LGS had a Sig 1911. I don't know the model. It was ODD. I think it was a double stacked .40, bobbed IIRC, with no grip safety and ugh it was just ugly. The safety/mag release/slide lock were very...strange.
Sig has never made a double stack 1911 so either you were looking at a P- series completion gun like the X-5 or someone put together a Frankenstein gun with a Sig slide and other mfr frame.
Lots of good thoughts, but what bout reliability? See any other competitor's Sig 1911 go out during competition? Or do you not really see anyone with a Sig at all?
Isn't the external extractor better for reliability?
I had my Sig, which is essentially a Tac Ops and there was one other participant with a Carry model gun. The Sigs were the only guns other than a SA TRP not to have a FTF or FTE during the course- Kimber, Colt, SA Loaded and one more that I don't remember all had issues.
Just ordered a Sig, have to wait a week for it to arrive, hate waiting. Hopefully I will have a chance to put a couple hundred rounds through it next weekend. I will let you know the results of its first run at the range.
Reliability? I ran 600 through my Tac Ops Friday night with no issues. Runs any ones magazines without problems. I've run nothing but ball ammo through mine, but zero failures of any kind.
I'm sure they're great guns, I've never heard anything bad about SIG weapons in my life. Actually really do wish they'd fix that extractor as I'd like to try/have one
I've got a C3 that may not be per the original 1911 design external extractor and different shaped slide. I bought it used and had a couple of instances of not returning to battery, put Wolff springs in it and it has ran like a champ ever since. Surprised me how accurate it is. I'm comfortable using it for a carry piece and put it in the rotation.
I actually liked the external extractor well enough to work out a trade for a S&W 1911 ES which is very similar to the Sig.
I've got some 1911's that are more like the original design but, the sights are different the palm safety is different, some have ambi toggle safeties and almost without exception they are built tighter than the originals. So I guess for me the extractor is just another nuance that typlifies changes in todays version of the 1911.
I actually like the slide profile of the Sigs, they are different, you know one when you see it, not the same design as everyone else. I say good job to Sig for making the 1911 design their own....
In my opinion, one of the hallmarks of a great 1911 is consistancy.
That is one of the faults I find in other brands I won't mention.
My Sig TacOps Carry fantastic shooter. And when playing around curious to see what pistol looked like with out threaded barrel, I discovered the barrel and bushing from my Ed Brown Special Forces Carry fit the Sig perfectly.
Like ALL gun makers, Sig lets one slip through occasionally, they are man made. I've had 3 Sig 1911's, and I'm anxious to aquire another.
The Carry Nitron w/o rail is a steal @ $800. (GB)
BTW some searching will give history of Sig version of 1911, and I believe I remember the external extractor being the contribution of Bill Wilson? (NOT to be confused with the short external extractor of Kimber notoriety)
Everyone has their biases, and if someone does not like something, that is reason enough to not buy it. I am totally happy with my SIG GSR Target Model and have absolutely no problems with the appearance of the slide or the external extractor. However, I will absolutely, never, ever, buy a 1911 with those atrocious front slide serrations some manufacturers insist on adding.
first off, i shoot idpa, and off duty carry a TRP in the black armory-kote.
my duty weapon is a sig tacops with a surefire x300.
i have always been a fan of a nice series 70 1911 in a classic "fighting configuration." my springer is amazing, and wouldnt trade it for the world. -by the way, the higher end springfields are NOT built on brazillian frames. the TRP's, the professional models (obviously), and the MC operators are built on frames made in the good ole' U.S.of A. you can tell them apart, as they obviously dont say "Made in Brazil", and the serial numbers are prefaced with "NM"
that being said, my sig tacops is a great pistol. by far, the best series 80 trigger i have ever felt. if you like it, dont hesitate.
dont hesitate on the springer either, if thats what you prefer.
-by the way, the higher end springfields are NOT built on brazillian frames. the TRP's, the professional models (obviously), and the MC operators are built on frames made in the good ole' U.S.of A. you can tell them apart, as they obviously dont say "Made in Brazil", and the serial numbers are prefaced with "NM"
with fear that I'm probably going ot ask you something you've answered 200 times already, what kinda grips are those?
Also the brazil thing, that's got me really re-thinking my idea of a custom shop gun from SA nad leaning back toward Wilson or Brown.
And finally, it's not so much the sig profile I don't like. I actually think it'd grow on me quick if I had one, it's just the extractor. Now to clear it up I never tried to say it wouldn't work right or wouldn't function properly or would have any issues. I actually have complete faith in Sig handguns, but I personally don't like the idea of the external extractor. That's the only reason for not liking/getting one of their 1911 guns
The early guns had some problems. I have a Compact in the 10K SN range that had to go back because of the barrel bushing problem. It was fitted with a new barrel and bushing. It takes time for peoples perception to change. Most Sig junkies have no use for american made Sigs. The 1911 gets no love over on the Sig Forum. Most traditional 1911 fans don't like external extractors and the Sig style slides. Some people will never like these guns.
I agree. It's actually entertaining to read the hubris by some of the "Sig junkies" on some of the Sig forums. I personally would never buy the sp2022 that is made here, but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase an American p220, etc. My 1911 has performed as I expected a Sig should.
I do own a German sp2022. All of the Exeter, NH 2022's I've seen in person have a cheaper finish/feel to them.
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