I just want to get some acctual numbers of who likes and dislikes the new rules governing equipment.
IDPA doesn't have to ask it's members what direction to go it's a business, and if that is the way the CEO want's his business to gravitate then so be it.srf said:The travesty is the bod's implementation of these rule without consulting the AC's, MD's, or membership.
Again: I'm not flaming anybody - some people will agree with me and some won't. But that is the entire problem: You can't run a sporting event with rules based on opinions - and without soliciting the opinions of the members that participate and work the matches.
1)Sure idpa doesn't have to ask. And shooters don't have to play. How long can a business survive that doesn't listen to its customers?snokid said:IDPA doesn't have to ask it's members what direction to go it's a business, and if that is the way the CEO want's his business to gravitate then so be it.
As far as the 99% that should just enjoy their hobby at least they now have clear rules to play by, well at least better ones to play by...
A local match should be run just as close to the rules as a national match.
Sno
With all due respect,TEXASTACTICAL said:...
"The goal of Defensive Pistol is to create a level playing field for all competitors to test the skill and ability of the individual, not their equipment or gamesmanship. Defensive Pistol will be very responsive to the needs and wishes of both the shooters and sponsors as long as their wants do not conflict with the basic principles and goals of Defensive Pistol.
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Unfortunately these are the hardships that we all have to endure to ensure that our sport stays true to its original intent.
Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
Hmmm..... Saturday, I had two errands to attend to before our match. I had another one to attend to on the way home. From the time I left my house till I returned, I wore a 5" 1911 in a Comp-tac locking paddle, and two magazines in Comp-tac magazine pouches. My mags didn't fall out, my gun stayed put, and no one saw that I was armed. So, are you telling me that my equipment is unsuitable for concealed carry? Gee, I wish I'd have known this sooner. I use those mag carriers EVERY SINGLE DAY.TEXASTACTICAL said:"Shooters competing in Defensive Pistol events are required to use practical handguns and holsters that are truly suitable for self-defense use. No "competition only" equipment is permitted in Defensive Pistol matches since the main goal is to test the skill and ability of an individual, not his or her equipment or gamesmanship."
"What type of equipment do I need to compete in Defensive Pistol matches?
Practical concealed carry type holsters are stipulated for Defensive Pistol use."
The new holster rules make perfect sense when you remember the original intent of our sport.
Texas Tactical
Don't forget, you can't have daylight between your holster and belt, either. My holster passes all the other tests, but not that one. So.... banned!snokid said:why is it so hard to figure out what's legal?
as long as the gun is tight to the body, breach half way up the belt, trigger covered, straight or rearward drop, and not adjustable it's legal.... not very hard to understand
mag pouches even easier straight up and down cover 50% of the mag....
why is that so hard to understand.....
sno
No, they didn't have to draw that line at all. I've shot about 40 local and regional matches so far. And, the only time I've seen a magazine fall out of a pouch, it was from a mag carrier that a) covered more than half the magazine tube, and b) IS STILL LEGAL So, tell me how these changes make things more safe or tactical?snokid said:Yes but they have to draw the line somewhere and that is where they picked to draw it....
sno
Exactly how is one cheating by using a magazine pouch that is angled, and covers less than 50% of the magazine? Brommeland gunleather makes a good point that forward canted magazines are more useful, particularly when someone is trying to reload from a crouch position.snokid said:Well you can't catch everyone, but you sure can cut down on the cheaters with stricker rules....
sno
Your response makes no sense.... how on earth can you accuse someone of cheating just because their magazine pouch holds the magazine at an angle? Or doesn't cover 50% of the tube? For pete's sake, on a double mag pouch, the rearmost mag is canted AWAY from the front... if anything, that would slow you down!snokid said:Well you can't catch everyone, but you sure can cut down on the cheaters with stricker rules....
sno
Me thinks snokid might have some $$$ in the leather market...Or he's like a duck hunter on 2nd ammendment rights "I don't care if you take away all the evil guns, just let me keep my shotgun as its for hunting."aclundwall said:Your response makes no sense....Are you defending the rule change so vehemently (in this thread and others) because you truly believe they are good changes, or just because you figure there's no point in fighting them?
DelayedReaction said:Exactly how is one cheating by using a magazine pouch that is angled, and covers less than 50% of the magazine? Brommeland gunleather makes a good point that forward canted magazines are more useful, particularly when someone is trying to reload from a crouch position.
Nice going snokid. The person you are mocking clearly stated he is new to shooting and was considering joining IDPA. I seriously doubt he has read the rule book from cover to cover nor does he understand the issues being discussed here. You attitude stinks and as an IDPA member and a SO I would like to personally thank you for treating a prospective new shooter in a very disrespectful manner. The sport needs attitudes like yours like it needs a hole in the head.snokid said:why is it so hard to figure out what's legal?
as long as the gun is tight to the body, breach half way up the belt, trigger covered, straight or rearward drop, and not adjustable it's legal.... not very hard to understand
mag pouches even easier straight up and down cover 50% of the mag....
why is that so hard to understand.....
sno