Don't trust a 1911 for carry? Try this.

[Itshak]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

I wouldn't want to carry a 1911 or any pistol that I highly valued for the simple fact that if you are involved in a shooting you'll more then likely never see that pistol again. It'll be stuck in evidence for years...besides the fact that when LEO's show up on scene & kick the pistol out of the way while you get proned out...you might not like the look of the finish once you do get it back.

That is not a good enough reason not to carry the best, most accurate, reliable gun that you shoot best it does not matter how much it is worth. All guns can be replaced unless they have an emotional value or are a family heirloom.
Also a scratched gun can be refinished back to its old beauty. If that gun saves your life that is where its ultimate value is not in being a safe queen.

[45silverback]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

I wouldn't want to carry a 1911 or any pistol that I highly valued for the simple fact that if you are involved in a shooting you'll more then likely never see that pistol again. It'll be stuck in evidence for years...besides the fact that when LEO's show up on scene & kick the pistol out of the way while you get proned out...you might not like the look of the finish once you do get it back.

That's like saying that you wouldn't ride a very nice, expensive, motorcycle because you might have a wreck and throw it down the road. Leave the Shiny New Gold Wing in the garage and ride the 91 Honda 450 because you don't want to chance crashing the Wing.

A pistol is like anything else... replaceable. Your life is not. Carry the best ya got is what I say.

Only exceptions I can think of are collectibles, one offs, rare, or family heirlooms.

JMHO

[Itshak]

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn

It's interesting how it's not only what you say but how you say it that matters. One of the problems with written communication is it can be hard to detect irony, humor, innocence or even sarcasm and interpret it correctly. I suspect some of the differences of opinion about the OP's work here had more to do with individuals interpretation of the words and not the words themselves. e.g. "Have a nice day," can have a very different interpretation/nuance when said by the store clerk after you've bought a new 1911 at the LGS, or if its said by the local constable after the traffic ticket you get speeding home to prep it for the Range.

That is why I like to use the smilies available to us to show which side of the emotion I am coming from.
I can say Have a nice day with
Or say have a nice day with or with
That is whow people will get the message.

[CallmeTom]

Originally Posted by Itshak

That is not a good enough reason not to carry the best, most accurate, reliable gun that you shoot best it does not matter how much it is worth. All guns can be replaced unless they have an emotional value or are a family heirloom.
Also a scratched gun can be refinished back to its old beauty. If that gun saves your life that is where its ultimate value is not in being a safe queen.

There are plenty of accurate, reliable guns out there that I'd carry & not blink an eye watching it kicked down a parking lot & sitting in evidence while waiting for the perp to exhaust all of his appeals. As long as you are okay with (more then likely) never seeing your pistol again then carry what you want.

[CallmeTom]

Originally Posted by 45silverback

That's like saying that you wouldn't ride a very nice, expensive, motorcycle because you might have a wreck and throw it down the road. Leave the Shiny New Gold Wing in the garage and ride the 91 Honda 450 because you don't want to chance crashing the Wing.

A pistol is like anything else... replaceable. Your life is not. Carry the best ya got is what I say.

Only exceptions I can think of are collectibles, one offs, rare, or family heirlooms.

JMHO

Nope, two different intents. You ride a motorcycle with the intent of transportation, you carry a pistol for protection. The pistol if used is to stop a threat. That isn't a motorcycles purpose. You don't get into a motorcycle accident & have your bike in evidence for 20-30 years.

[Bill Mannatt]

When as many Sigs have been to "Hell and back",as 1911's,I'll consider one. Like hell.

[Itshak]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

There are plenty of accurate, reliable guns out there that I'd carry & not blink an eye watching it kicked down a parking lot & sitting in evidence while waiting for the perp to exhaust all of his appeals. As long as you are okay with (more then likely) never seeing your pistol again then carry what you want.

I don't get personally attached to any gun it is a tool and they all can be replaced unless as I said it is a collectible or a family heirloom which in that case I would not carry it anyway. BTW all my guns are just regular guns that i can walk into the store tomorrow and replace them, that would include a custom 1911 worth 3000 dollars if I had one, they can all be replaced.
Maybe where you come from you will never see your gun after a justifiable shooting but here I will get my gun back I promise you.

[CallmeTom]

Originally Posted by Itshak

I don't get personally attached to any gun it is a tool and they all can be replaced unless as I said it is a collectible or a family heirloom which in that case I would not carry it anyway. BTW all my guns are just regular guns that i can walk into the store tomorrow and replace them, that would include a custom 1911 worth 3000 dollars if I had one, they can all be replaced.
Maybe where you come from you will never see your gun after a justifiable shooting but here I will get my gun back I promise you.

I don't disagree with that logic I just don't subscribe to it.

[Itshak]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

I don't disagree with that logic I just don't subscribe to it.

To each his own.

[45silverback]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

Nope, two different intents. You ride a motorcycle with the intent of transportation, you carry a pistol for protection. The pistol if used is to stop a threat. That isn't a motorcycles purpose. You don't get into a motorcycle accident & have your bike in evidence for 20-30 years.

If you don't think that riders are as attached to their bikes as we are our guns, you obviously don't ride. There are Bikers who are more attached to their bikes than their wives (I ain't one. I love my bike, but not that much).

Motorcycles are far more than just transportation to most who ride. Many times they are one's transportation, but it usually goes way beyond that. I am in that category. I ride to work daily unless the weather is really bad. I take care of my 4 wheeled vehicles, but I "Baby" my motorcycle. I talk about my motorcycle. I obsess over small details and accessories. I just drive my truck....

My point is, I don't leave it at home for fear of losing it, I use it as it was intended. Same with my guns, I carry the best gun I have suitable for carry. Right now it's a Colt. If it was a Brown or Baer I would still carry it.

Cars are transportation.

[CallmeTom]

Originally Posted by 45silverback

If you don't think that riders are as attached to their bikes as we are our guns, you obviously don't ride. There are Bikers who are more attached to their bikes than their wives (I ain't one. I love my bike, but not that much).

Motorcycles are far more than just transportation to most who ride. Many times they are one's transportation, but it usually goes way beyond that. I am in that category. I ride to work daily unless the weather is really bad. I take care of my 4 wheeled vehicles, but I "Baby" my motorcycle. I talk about my motorcycle. I obsess over small details and accessories. I just drive my truck....

My point is, I don't leave it at home for fear of losing it, I use it as it was intended. Same with my guns, I carry the best gun I have suitable for carry. Right now it's a Colt. If it was a Brown or Baer I would still carry it.

Cars are transportation.

Wow, you don't know how more wrong you could be...as a rider myself I ride for fun, not for protection...I still have no idea how you can draw comparatives between a bike & a gun but what ever.

You are missing the point, if you are ok with giving up a pistol &/or having it damaged then more power to you. I'm not in that position & even if I was I doubt I'd take that stance. I'm confident in the fact that what ever I choose to carry, be it a $600 gun or a $6000 gun, I can hit my intended target.

[45silverback]

Originally Posted by CallmeTom

Wow, you don't know how more wrong you could be...as a rider myself I ride for fun, not for protection...I still have no idea how you can draw comparatives between a bike & a gun but what ever.

You are missing the point, if you are ok with giving up a pistol &/or having it damaged then more power to you. I'm not in that position & even if I was I doubt I'd take that stance. I'm confident in the fact that what ever I choose to carry, be it a $600 gun or a $6000 gun, I can hit my intended target.

I never siad I ride for protection. I was comparing not carrying the best gun available for fear of losing it, to not riding your best bike for fear of losing it.

My point was, use the best tool available to you for a given task. I've never understood not useing something for it's intended task due to fear of damaging said item.

I'm not ok with damaging or losing anything... But the thing I'm least ok with damaging or losing is my ass... So I'll use the best equipment I can get my hands on to cover it. It if only covers it once, money well spent.

[markbob45]

You can still take a treasured gun to the range to shoot and enjoy, and carry something less "valuable to you". The comparison would be leaving the gun in the safe never to be shot or motorcycle in the garage never to be riden. There is really no in between with the bike you either ride it or you don't. The gun you can still shoot but not carry and risk loosing.
I myself agree with Itshak, guns are tools they get shot and scratched and worn. But they must shoot reliably and accurately. I probably would not carry a $3000 Wilson but I don't own one and probably never will. If I did its purchase would be for home defense not carry, so it still could be confiscated. No problem carrying my $1000 commander though.
To me the Sig in the OP looks to a good choice as a carry weapon.

[gtbigup01]

[QUOTE=45silverback;3934602]
Motorcycles are far more than just transportation to most who ride.

Ohhhh YES they are, just did 89 miles today with no real destination in mind. Just to get out. I will leave the wife thing alone before i say something stupid hahahahaha