Tables Turned on Chicago Buyback Program

[Herbert Cannon]

http://www.suntimes.com/13484760-761...-gun-camp.html

[Porterhouse83]

That's Awsome!

[joshua casher]

“We host the gun turn-in event on an annual basis to encourage residents to turn in their guns so we can take guns off the street and it’s unfortunate that this group is abusing a program intended to increase the safety of our communities,” said Melissa Stratton, a police spokeswoman


Urban Liberal thinking at its finest. As long as the subjects agree with those sentinemnts and accept this kind of treatment from thier public servants there will always be a schism between them and libertine America.

[H-D]

Great idea I love it

[dave079]

Love it!

[CIB]

Spectacular!

[emptymag]

"A fool and his/her money... "

?what buffoon would give $100 for a Lorcin .25?
Oh, wait... question answered!

[M4finny]

Originally Posted by joshua casher

“We host the gun turn-in event on an annual basis to encourage residents to turn in their guns so we can take guns off the street and it’s unfortunate that this group is abusing a program intended to increase the safety of our communities,” said Melissa Stratton, a police spokeswoman


Urban Liberal thinking at its finest. As long as the subjects agree with those sentinemnts and accept this kind of treatment from thier public servants there will always be a schism between them and libertine America.

That's one of the problems, by nature "subjects" don't have "public servants" working for them. In an urban environment, many (not all) young people and adults know nothing of the shooting sports or even the outdoor life that many of us do. Being "urban" to city dwellers means that they have been programmed to believe that anyone who goes camping, drives a pick-up truck and who owns a gun is "backward" or "dangerous". Many have never been taught properly about firearms, let alone our Country's long and rich history of using firearms for hunting as well as for defense of self and State.

Such pigeon-holing coupled with idiots like Michael Pfleger brain-washing from the pulpit makes such gun control schemes palatable for the city dwelling masses. This is the way they have been brought up, it's not an excuse mind you, it is simply the way it is in places like Chicago.

Pfleger forgets that disarmament throughout history always precluded persecution. As a "so-called" Catholic Priest, he would do well to remember how many were persecuted only after they were stripped of their God given right to self defense.

As another pointed out, even the language used in these schemes is misleading. The term "buyback" in itself infuses the idea that somehow, guns belonged to the Government (represented by the Police in this case) in the first place. And, that people lining up to get gift cards are simply returning firearms to "their rightful place". This of course we know not to be true at all.

This is purely a power grab for political reasons and a means for Pfleger to (in his mind) remain "relevant" to his mislead flock of parishioners. He has often times (every week) used racism to fuel the fire in his Church. And yet, we all know that disarmament and gun control have real racism at their very roots. Without these schemes, both poverty pimps like Pfleger and the gun control crowd lose their hold over their flock.

YMMV,

Fin

[CRT2]

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Pfleger forgets that disarmament throughout history always precluded persecution. As a "so-called" Catholic Priest, he would do well to remember how many were persecuted only after they were stripped of their God given right to self defense.


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Children with guns (properly trained) could protect themselves from Predators (yes I'm Catholic).

[M4finny]

Originally Posted by CRT2

Children with guns (properly trained) could protect themselves from Predators (yes I'm Catholic).

That's not the direction that I was going. I was thinking more along the lines of Father Maximilian Kolbe. And yes I'm Catholic too which is irrelevant to this discussion.

Back on topic: Father Pfleger should know that his flock (primarily Black Catholics) would be better served to learn about the racist roots of gun control schemes like the ones he supports. Problem is, he's not a true shepherd of his flock, he's just another good ole' boy Chicago politician in a Collar.

Regards,

Fin

[Scott_In_OKC]

Brilliant!

[MarkEdwards]

Originally Posted by M4finny

Being "urban" to city dwellers means that they have been programmed to believe that anyone who goes camping, drives a pick-up truck and who owns a gun is "backward" or "dangerous".

Yep. All is takes is an "I am superior" and an "Us versus Them" attitude.

[LEO2B]

Originally Posted by M4finny

Pfleger forgets that disarmament throughout history always precluded persecution. As a "so-called" Catholic Priest, he would do well to remember how many were persecuted only after they were stripped of their God given right to self defense.

Nazis are not hunting Jews in Chicago.

Catholics are not hunting Protestants.

Communists are not hunting Capitalists or Socialists, or vice versa.

Gang bangers are killing anybody they can put sights on for initiations, robbery, retaliation, etc..

It's a win-win; Chicago is a little bit safer and Champaign area kids get more practice ammo.. Very cool, but no reason to bring false political/historical rhetoric into it. Nobody is being stripped of their firearms-they are voluntarily bringing them in for a gift card, to more than likely buy groceries.

[FR8owner]

Note to Melissa Stratton. You are clueless.

[M4finny]

Originally Posted by LEO2B

Nazis are not hunting Jews in Chicago.

Catholics are not hunting Protestants.

Communists are not hunting Capitalists or Socialists, or vice versa.

Gang bangers are killing anybody they can put sights on for initiations, robbery, retaliation, etc..

It's a win-win; Chicago is a little bit safer and Champaign area kids get more practice ammo.. Very cool, but no reason to bring false political/historical rhetoric into it. Nobody is being stripped of their firearms-they are voluntarily bringing them in for a gift card, to more than likely buy groceries.

It's a win win only for politicians and gun grabbers with this one exception of a gun group taking advantage of the event and turning the tables for once.

Now, would you care to explain your statement on just how "Chicago is a little bit safer" because of a gun buy back (backfired or not)? Do you actually believe for one nanosecond that Chicago's crime rate/murder rate was affected one bit by this? Are you actually in support of "gun buy back" schemes?

As for my brief comments on Pfleger's amnesia on the effects of gun control, there is nothing false or rhetorical about oppressive regimes first disarming and then enslaving whole groups of people, to include Catholics and Jews during WW2. I suggest that you ask a holocaust survivor what their definition of "rhetoric" is.

Fin

[markbob45]

Originally Posted by LEO2B

Nazis are not hunting Jews in Chicago.

Catholics are not hunting Protestants.

Communists are not hunting Capitalists or Socialists, or vice versa.

Gang bangers are killing anybody they can put sights on for initiations, robbery, retaliation, etc..

It's a win-win; Chicago is a little bit safer and Champaign area kids get more practice ammo.. Very cool, but no reason to bring false political/historical rhetoric into it. Nobody is being stripped of their firearms-they are voluntarily bringing them in for a gift card, to more than likely buy groceries.

True.
and the Chicago politicians let it happen while the use feel good measures such as "buy backs" to pretend to do something about it. All the while they plot to disarm law abidding citizens.

Also Phleger is a compete nut. He has been in Chicago along time and is basically a clone of Rev. Wright

[CavCop]

I see so much more hope for IL than CA.

Glad to see them fighting the good fight. Hope they build support and get good news coverage.

[dsk]

I find it gratifying that some folks on our side are finally learning. If you want to beat the anti-gunners you play their own tactics against them. I've got at least two junk guns waiting for some liberal fools to do something similar around here. I can't even give them away right now, but if the antis want to give me $200 for them just so I can go buy more ammo or some spare mags I'm game!

[gamma72]

Awesome!

[19112474me]

Good idea. but if some politician offered me a $100 mastercard for one of my guns, i would hand him my bryco jennings, and use the $100 towards another gun :-p otherwise hes gonna have to hand out a LOT more cards per gun haha

[Bvrtail]

BRAVO!!! dsk I'm sure theres alot of us who like you also have "junk guns"in our collections, I'd gladly give them up for one of those so called Master Cards or the $ 200 and BUY more Ammo! cant go wrong with that one

[custom2]

I too am waiting for a buy back program to come around so I can unload a double barrel I can't get rid of.

If they wanna give good money to citizens, why not take advantage? What difference does it make what my intentions are or what I buy with the money, right?

[dillehayd]

I recall a similar story in Texas where a city did a buy back program and offered 150 per gun, regardless of condition. A few enterprising souls headed over to a discount store and cleared the shelves of sub $100 .22 rifles and headed directly to the buyback tables. =)

[kramm]

I've got one that I would trade for a gift card too. Heck I would even send it across the river to Ill. if they could use it in there fight to get freedom.

[mgargac]

Anybody know how long this is supposed to last? I'm heading to Chicago at the end of the month. Might as well make some money.