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Old 05-27-2012, 10:08 PM
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This forum may help..
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:32 AM
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As I understand from what I read in the posted link, those figures are for the entire state. Getting approval for gun reasons is easier outside NYC.

Speaking of which, do you happen to know of the outcome of the Marine and the female doctor / RN or whatever that was arrested and facing years in jail over admitting to police they had a concealed weapon?
I will search for it.

The carrying part is very bad.

Some people have a business or work that requires carrying equipment or large sames of money on hand and live in bad neighborhoods such as the projects.

Where criminals have guns and yet cops preferred not to give licensees to even extreme cases.

That is why the case with Berny Gets happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Goetz
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:08 AM
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Oh, and you don't need an expediter or whatever they are called. Save your money, buy more ammo. Only reason to get an attorney involved in the NYC permit process, is if you are going for a business carry license or have a problem in your past....other than a Ickes or two.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:52 PM
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I don't have anything serous in past. I mean I was never handcuffed or detained by the police. I was given summonses and the only problem is the one i got recently. First one in like over 3 years for jogging at night where it appear to be a park area. These little things could be problematic. NY has very hard core laws. If it was another state most of other states I could perhaps qualify for a Carry license or even an counseled carry one.

My grievance is that some guy in a BMW drives drunk and lies and uses dis-honest tack-ticks and gets away with a huge violation drunken driving where i get a ticket for jogging in the park at night. It seems cops protect these people Because of money or i don't know what or why.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:12 PM
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I was given summonses and the only problem is the one i got recently. First one in like over 3 years for jogging at night where it appear to be a park area.
I'd be far more eager to move to a state where it was legal to jog at any time of day whatsoever, than trying to get a CCW in NY. I highly suspect the former is more easily obtainable than the latter.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:31 PM
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I don't have anything serous in past. I mean I was never handcuffed or detained by the police. I was given summonses and the only problem is the one i got recently. First one in like over 3 years for jogging at night where it appear to be a park area. These little things could be problematic. NY has very hard core laws. If it was another state most of other states I could perhaps qualify for a Carry license or even an counseled carry one.

My grievance is that some guy in a BMW drives drunk and lies and uses dis-honest tack-ticks and gets away with a huge violation drunken driving where i get a ticket for jogging in the park at night. It seems cops protect these people Because of money or i don't know what or why.
Wow dude have ever considered moving to another state? Your city is messed up. You cant jog at night but people with money can get away with anything and get elected to mayor multiple times. And requiring a permit to protect your home is making me laugh, god forbid you kill some hard working criminal trying to feed his drug addiction, right ? But if you do decide to move dont go to California or Illonois lol.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:52 PM
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What does Florida or what kind of car someone else drive have to do with your ability to get permission to own a gun in NY?

My bet is on, denial. Bloomberg's military is all you need to be safe, don't you believe him?
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:46 AM
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Bloomberg is a clown lol.

I believe home protection permit is doable do.

Cary is a bit hard.
And counseled carry are people with connection.

The jogging part was wrong but, when you have undercover cops giving tickets that's messed up.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:51 AM
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Im going to keep posting from when I begin the process to where im going to the interview with the NYPD and conclusion.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:10 AM
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The face to face interview will ask you about every 911 call you or your spouse have every made, your background, your mental status, why you want a firearm, etc. Do not answer any of the questions "because it is my 2nd amendment right, etc".

Be honest. Do not appear to be uncomfortable; nervous is fine, uncomfortable can be a red flag.

Like others have posted, it will take 4 to 6 months. You may be denied, you may not. If you are denied, I believe they are required to explain their reasoning.

Home / premises permits are tricky because I believe you cannot leave the home with it. Which means no range time. I could be wrong; as I did a ton of research a few years ago but remember reading about the downsides.

Your consultant / attorney should have all the updated info. Good luck
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:24 PM
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Target/Hunting/Premises are the most popular permits issued in NYC. In the interview they will spend most of the time telling you essentially that you arent qualified to defend yourself, youare better off calling 911 you are not Charles Bronson etc. If you have a clean record you will get your permit. If you hunt make sure your NY hunting license is current and bring it or a copy. If you join a target or bullseye club bring your membership card. Otherwise they will issue you a premises permit. Make sure you ask for Target Priveleges as they call them. As reiterated your 2nd Amendment rights are not respected in downstate NY.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:11 AM
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Target/Hunting/Premises are the most popular permits issued in NYC. In the interview they will spend most of the time telling you essentially that you arent qualified to defend yourself, youare better off calling 911 you are not Charles Bronson etc. If you have a clean record you will get your permit. If you hunt make sure your NY hunting license is current and bring it or a copy. If you join a target or bullseye club bring your membership card. Otherwise they will issue you a premises permit. Make sure you ask for Target Priveleges as they call them. As reiterated your 2nd Amendment rights are not respected in downstate NY.
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Hi John,

I have asked the guy who will be helping me with the application to add the hunting and target range premise on the permit so that I can practice with the pistol and not just let it rust in the safe. I will try not to be nervous or set of any red flags. And I will try to explain everything they ask to convince I'm of sound mental health and its my right to poses a firearm in accordance to the second amendment. And try not to overstate things as to seem anctious or cause any red flags with them.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:21 AM
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The face to face interview will ask you about every 911 call you or your spouse have every made, your background, your mental status, why you want a firearm, etc. Do not answer any of the questions "because it is my 2nd amendment right, etc".

Be honest. Do not appear to be uncomfortable; nervous is fine, uncomfortable can be a red flag.

Like others have posted, it will take 4 to 6 months. You may be denied, you may not. If you are denied, I believe they are required to explain their reasoning.

Home / premises permits are tricky because I believe you cannot leave the home with it. Which means no range time. I could be wrong; as I did a ton of research a few years ago but remember reading about the downsides.

Your consultant / attorney should have all the updated info. Good luck

I will try my best not to appear uncomfortable or nervous during the interview.

Thanks for the advice.
I truly appreciate it.

As with anything I want to get it the legal way.

West side range in NY, NY also has service for setting up a concealed licensee for carry valid in over 37 states. Something worth also acknowledging. All except NY lol.

Hope full will get this done.
I do have summons that needs to be cleared up before applying.
But I was never arrested where they slapped the cuffs on me so I think I will be fine.
This is only slowing the process for me but it wont hinder it.

I also know that now the back ground FBI checks are taking very long time so this might take more then 4 months or the full 6 months. I was told by the specialist who was doing the paperwork that it takes under 4 months usually and most of his people get licenses.

So far getting the paperwork finished.

I have co habitat form that's ok and a safeguard form that needs to be re-dun because the notary did not initial just stamped the document.

When I try to dispute or close the summons then I believe I can start the application process in peace.

After filing papers can study the laws and how to pass the in person police screening. As well as a firearms safety course will be given prior to the screening.

Thanks Everyone.

Hopefully I will get license and enjoy some range time.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:22 AM
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Are there any laws about field stripping of the weapon? like should it be done in a room with like no windows and such cause someone can see and it will make them squeamish and stuff?
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:33 AM
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Are there any laws about field stripping of the weapon? like should it be done in a room with like no windows and such cause someone can see and it will make them squeamish and stuff?



If that's what NY has done to you, you need to get out, like fast! You are still in America, even though it's NY, it may not seem like it. There are no laws holding you accountable for how someone else "feels". That's where Taekwondo might come in handy.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:07 PM
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If that's what NY has done to you, you need to get out, like fast! You are still in America, even though it's NY, it may not seem like it. There are no laws holding you accountable for how someone else "feels". That's where Taekwondo might come in handy.
Wish i had not ruined my knees with all them kicks lol.

The jobs of my family members are here in NY.

And we bought a home here.

I guess I asked a silly question.

The backyard would probably be fine.

Its already polluted by that family who stores all the cans they pick up for recycling lol.

Are the solvents to clean firearms very odorous and need ventilating?

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:20 PM
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Dont overthink it. Its really just extra hoops they make you go through. Its not fair but neither is life. There are actually no mechanics or gunsmith questions
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:38 AM
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Thanks John. I will try to get it in Ny and It will take time.

Are there there a lot of gun law related questions.

Like I'm intending to learn the Ny Gun laws. But it seems there are quite a lot of them and memorizing all of them might be a hard task.

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Old 06-02-2012, 06:06 PM
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The Co habitat form was filled out ok and notarized properly.

But the Pistol safeguard form the notary just stamped and did not print or sign her name.

So have to get that out of the way then. Make sure to gather all the documents. And of course the summons has to be closed. Hopefully dismissed.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:11 PM
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Are the solvents to clean firearms very odorous and need ventilating?

Thanks,
Roman.
I found that M-Pro 7 gun cleaner has practically no odor at all. I use it on my S&W J-frame revolver that I carry around with me every day in Connecticut. Its good to keep a low profile and not smell like a bottle of Hoppes #9 in places chock full of anti-gun knuckle heads.

A few years ago I had a NYS hunting & target permit in Putnam Co.when I lived there, but Putnam Co. is not as anti-gun as the Big Apple. Good luck with your endeavor.
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Looks like the OP has the Legal info he needs and now we're talking about his other concerns related to firearms. Please start a new thread in General or Gunsmithing about specific concerns.

Thanks.

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