Are all parts made in house at NH?

[Sgt. 0811]

I am just curious if Nighthawk makes everything for their guns anyone know?

[rbabbitt767]

They outsource a lot of their parts. Companies like Schueman, 10-8, Heinie, Novak, Jardine, and Bob Marvel contribute. Some of their frames come from Caspian and STI. I am not sure what else.

[Shockpilot]

Stainless barrels ate Storm Lake

Carbon steel barrels are Kart

[old cop]

NOBODY makes all their parts.

[karlglen101]

Originally Posted by old cop

NOBODY makes all their parts.

I thought Wilson, and perhaps Brown, made all their parts (or damn close to it!).

[H-D]

Originally Posted by old cop

NOBODY makes all their parts.

Taurus claims to .

[Busa Dave]

Originally Posted by karlglen101

I thought Wilson, and perhaps Brown, made all their parts (or damn close to it!).

Not even close..... If they did you could not afford it...

[awpk03s]

I don't think they physically manufacture anything in house. They fit and assemble parts sourced from a variety of manufacturers.

[Shockpilot]

Originally Posted by karlglen101

I thought Wilson, and perhaps Brown, made all their parts (or damn close to it!).

Look at Wilson's barrels. Then look at Nowlins website...

[kennethhardy]

Brown uses novak sights. I heard nh uses kimber ambidextrous safeties. Not to sure on that.

[awpk03s]

NH buys frames and slides from outside companies (they told me this in my build).
NH used Kimber ambi safeties for a long time. Tim told me once, "its a Kimber style, but its our part". When I pressed him on it, he admitted its the same MIM part Kimber uses. I have said before and will say again it is a good part for the hammer pin retention design. But make no mistake, its a MIM Kimber part if that bothers you.

NH website now says the ambi is a fully machined tool steel part. Some months ago I emailed Larry and asked about it, he said it was also a hammer pin design, and was another Bob Marvel collaborations part. I asked for a price, and some pictures of it as I was interested in purchasing a couple. After multiple follow ups I never heard anything, and ordered Wilson bullet proof ambis instead.

[drillsgt]

Originally Posted by Shockpilot

Look at Wilson's barrels. Then look at Nowlins website...

Who makes the predator barrels?

[Sgt. 0811]

Makes sense on the ambi safeties, thats why they dont warrenty the ambi.

[sig2009]

Originally Posted by awpk03s

NH buys frames and slides from outside companies (they told me this in my build).
NH used Kimber ambi safeties for a long time. Tim told me once, "its a Kimber style, but its our part". When I pressed him on it, he admitted its the same MIM part Kimber uses. I have said before and will say again it is a good part for the hammer pin retention design. But make no mistake, its a MIM Kimber part if that bothers you.

NH website now says the ambi is a fully machined tool steel part. Some months ago I emailed Larry and asked about it, he said it was also a hammer pin design, and was another Bob Marvel collaborations part. I asked for a price, and some pictures of it as I was interested in purchasing a couple. After multiple follow ups I never heard anything, and ordered Wilson bullet proof ambis instead.

I believe Remsport in MA. makes the frames.

[awpk03s]

Some slides and frames also used to come from Caspian.

Nighthawk warranty policy on the ambi is kind of silly. They don't warranty them because of the tendency for the two halves to loosen and walk apart with use and the weak joint design (according to their website). However, the Kimber ambi has none of these problems because it is not the design that they describe. Over the years they appear to have used Kimbers and an Ed Brown type ambi (not sure if it is actually a Brown). Why they use one or another doesn't seem to have much of any reason to it, as they will not ask you if you want a Kimber part or the other one - you get what you get.

Still interested in this elusive NH tool steel ambi... Just for curiosity sake only. From here on out I will buy Wilson Bulletproof Ambis exclusively.

[1911GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by drillsgt

Who makes the predator barrels?

That is a good question. I am curious to know that also.

[nosreme]

Of course, who makes the parts is completely irrelevant and meaningless as long as they're up to NHC's standards and as long as they're fitted in typically outstanding NHC fashion. Same for any high quality gun. Who makes the frammises is almost as unimportant as their country of origin.

[kennethhardy]

^^^^ This person is the problem. If I spend 3k On a gun I better know where their parts come from. Kimber parts on my dominator are un acceptable. This is why I ignore anything nosreme says.

[yfdcap]

Originally Posted by nosreme

Of course, who makes the parts is completely irrelevant and meaningless as long as they're up to NHC's standards and as long as they're fitted in typically outstanding NHC fashion. Same for any high quality gun. Who makes the frammises is almost as unimportant as their country of origin.

I do NOT agree. If this gun was made with all Kimber parts but fitted by NH would you still pay this much?

[AgOperator]

Originally Posted by old cop

NOBODY makes all their parts.

Infinity firearms(SVI) makes everything but springs in house. And yes they do make traditional style 1911's. http://sviguns.com

[Shockpilot]

Originally Posted by nosreme

Of course, who makes the parts is completely irrelevant and meaningless as long as they're up to NHC's standards and as long as they're fitted in typically outstanding NHC fashion. Same for any high quality gun. Who makes the frammises is almost as unimportant as their country of origin.

This statement is inaccurate and ignorant.
First how do you know NHC's "standards" in regards to purchasing are at the elevated level that they portray to the public through advertising? Clearly your second sentence exposes not only your lack of expertise in metallurgy but also industrial process.

[Shockpilot]

Originally Posted by Shockpilot

Look at Wilson's barrels. Then look at Nowlins website...

I was misinformed and Wilson does not use Nowlin barrels with proprietary rifling as I previously insinuated.