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Old 05-02-2012, 11:22 AM
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Harry,
Did you install the gold bead yourself? Buy an after market FS with the bead already in it? Or buy the bead seperately? I have been seriously thinking of haveing my gunsmith put a gold bead in but wasn't sure of the best way to go. Thanks

Noah
Noah,

I have had it done by Novaks and by the Colt Custom Shop. I had it done by the CCS when I did a tactical package (if you have Colt do it you must specify GOLD not brass - there is a differnce.

If all you want is sight work I would recommend Novak...about seven days turn around if you just send them the slide. They have done three for me and the all hit dead on w .230fmj. I do not hesitate recommending them. They do a very good job!

I can tell a differnce between gold and brass. That is why not many women wear brass jewelry - gold attracts more light in all conditions - much better then a fiber optic in low / florescent lighting. Gold does not need much care to clean... After acouple hundred rounds i can just swip my thumb over the bead and presto...pretty girl.

Try it out before you spend the bucks...but for me it is best way to go.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:57 PM
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Wouldn't shoot anything BUT 3 dots,all tritium for night,and tritium rears with F/O front for daylight/competition work. Quit whining and shoot.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:38 PM
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IMHO, if you have trouble seeing the sights, whichever type you prefer, go to a doc and get perscription glasses. I have been shooting all types of firearms, for 32 years. For 28 of those years, I have worn corrective lenses, either contacts or glasses. I occasionally, shoot without them, in case a circumstance comes along where I need to do that. Otherwise, I can't understand why anyone would pursue shooting activities without corrected vision.

I know that is a pain in the neck, if you need progressive lenses. I offer this advice primarily to those who are simply becoming a little near sighted or far sighted, and can't get a clear focus on the front sight.

On the dots thing, for fine target shooting, I prefer all black. Crisp black outlines are easier line up for finely placed shots. The usefulness of this sight picture degrades with anbient light, color of target, and distance to target. Dot sights will work for this too, just focus on the outline of the sight, rather than the dot.

For any type of shooting where a fast aquisition is needed, I prefer 3 dots. I have never bothered to finely tune a sight picture of 3 ''covered and aligned" though. They are only for quick refference. I focus on the front sight coming onto target, outside the focus, I see that the two dots on the rear are roughly aligned. When the presentation is complete, the front will be on target for the compressed break.

I am not sure I explained this as clearly as possible. I just wanted to throw out an other opinion. Sometimes I am confused with other folk's explanations of sight picture, and sight alignment.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:07 PM
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Like many here I black out the rear dots. To many dots and takes to long to line all up . One on the front only. I like a night sight on the front when possible
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:40 PM
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IMHO, if you have trouble seeing the sights, whichever type you prefer, go to a doc and get perscription glasses. I have been shooting all types of firearms, for 32 years. For 28 of those years, I have worn corrective lenses, either contacts or glasses. I occasionally, shoot without them, in case a circumstance comes along where I need to do that. Otherwise, I can't understand why anyone would pursue shooting activities without corrected vision.

I know that is a pain in the neck, if you need progressive lenses. I offer this advice primarily to those who are simply becoming a little near sighted or far sighted, and can't get a clear focus on the front sight.

On the dots thing, for fine target shooting, I prefer all black. Crisp black outlines are easier line up for finely placed shots. The usefulness of this sight picture degrades with anbient light, color of target, and distance to target. Dot sights will work for this too, just focus on the outline of the sight, rather than the dot.

For any type of shooting where a fast aquisition is needed, I prefer 3 dots. I have never bothered to finely tune a sight picture of 3 ''covered and aligned" though. They are only for quick refference. I focus on the front sight coming onto target, outside the focus, I see that the two dots on the rear are roughly aligned. When the presentation is complete, the front will be on target for the compressed break.

I am not sure I explained this as clearly as possible. I just wanted to throw out an other opinion. Sometimes I am confused with other folk's explanations of sight picture, and sight alignment.
Thanks Dan, thats good infornation.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:45 PM
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I had a my doc make glasses for my sights at arms length.
He was excited to do this as it was something new for him, gave me the full work up and I got a pair of glasses for shooting with pvc lenses.
They made a big differance.
Three dots sights just distract me when target shooting.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:08 PM
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When the original front sight on my ORM 1991A1 flew off, I had the slide dovetailed and a Novak white dot installed. (kept the stock all-black rear sight) It gives me a very good sight picture, and I immediately shot better with it.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:13 AM
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IMHO, if you have trouble seeing the sights, whichever type you prefer, go to a doc and get perscription glasses. I have been shooting all types of firearms, for 32 years. For 28 of those years, I have worn corrective lenses, either contacts or glasses. I occasionally, shoot without them, in case a circumstance comes along where I need to do that. Otherwise, I can't understand why anyone would pursue shooting activities without corrected vision.

I know that is a pain in the neck, if you need progressive lenses. I offer this advice primarily to those who are simply becoming a little near sighted or far sighted, and can't get a clear focus on the front sight.

On the dots thing, for fine target shooting, I prefer all black. Crisp black outlines are easier line up for finely placed shots. The usefulness of this sight picture degrades with anbient light, color of target, and distance to target. Dot sights will work for this too, just focus on the outline of the sight, rather than the dot.

For any type of shooting where a fast aquisition is needed, I prefer 3 dots. I have never bothered to finely tune a sight picture of 3 ''covered and aligned" though. They are only for quick refference. I focus on the front sight coming onto target, outside the focus, I see that the two dots on the rear are roughly aligned. When the presentation is complete, the front will be on target for the compressed break.

I am not sure I explained this as clearly as possible. I just wanted to throw out an other opinion. Sometimes I am confused with other folk's explanations of sight picture, and sight alignment.
I too appreciate you evaluation on this subject, I was blessed with great vision till I was 45 and now at 50 I have struggled with progressive lenses and just don't we're them enough.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:03 AM
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I had a my doc make glasses for my sights at arms length.
He was excited to do this as it was something new for him, gave me the full work up and I got a pair of glasses for shooting with pvc lenses.
They made a big differance.
Three dots sights just distract me when target shooting.
When you do focus at arms length what does the target look like? With my reading glasses I can get a very clear focus on the sights but the target is so blurred I just have to shoot at center of blob.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:10 AM
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IMHO, if you have trouble seeing the sights, whichever type you prefer, go to a doc and get perscription glasses. I have been shooting all types of firearms, for 32 years. For 28 of those years, I have worn corrective lenses, either contacts or glasses. I occasionally, shoot without them, in case a circumstance comes along where I need to do that. Otherwise, I can't understand why anyone would pursue shooting activities without corrected vision.
I've tried the $500 prescription glasses, both progressive and biofocal. I have found that I can do as well with the $12.00 Wally World reading glasses. I actually have asked the optomitrist to make some progressives with my reading prescription and plain glass on top. The glasses come back with corrections on top and I took them back for a refund. I corresponded with a gun writer that wears glasses and he said get glasses with the reading lens on top but I can't find anyone who will make these for me. I went to the same company he suggested and they said it couldn't be done.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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When you do focus at arms length what does the target look like? With my reading glasses I can get a very clear focus on the sights but the target is so blurred I just have to shoot at center of blob.
Since the lens are weak, there is not much difference between having them on or off.
On, the sight are clear and my eye strain has gone way down.
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