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Old 04-29-2012, 04:09 PM
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Thanks guys.
I didn't think there was a legal limit but wanted to hear from others.
Over doin it, under doin it, its all good, just as long as you are doin it.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:21 PM
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darn, this makes the nine rounds I carry in my EMP seem a little......... inadequate.

must be capacity envy
Real mean carry two-shot derringers, with one empty chamber. Anything else is overkill!
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:49 AM
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Real mean carry two-shot derringers, with one empty chamber. Anything else is overkill!
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:17 AM
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:44 AM
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Ok, so by your rationale one instance makes an average? So we should all be carrying G17's and 5 spare mags, 2 BUG's and 18 speed loaders for them (assuming they are revolvers).

I am a civilian, I am not in the habit of taking on gangs nor do I frequent areas where I would encounter more than one or two people looking for trouble. I carry my 1911 (8+1) and ONE spare mag. I do not feel under gunned.

As I always tell my Glock Fan Boy Friends, "if you carried a man's caliber, you wouldn't need 17 rounds!"






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Ditto. Exactly what sized revolution do you guys intend to start with all that ammo?


Better to have too many than not enough. Always prepare for the worst and hope for the best (isn't that why we carry anyway?)



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Thanks guys.
I didn't think there was a legal limit but wanted to hear from others.
Over doin it, under doin it, its all good, just as long as you are doin it.
Correct?
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Correct


I usually carry the 7+1 in the gun plus one sometimes two spare 8rd mags.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:19 PM
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Funny this should come up. My brother was pulled over and searched. He had my 66 with 2 speed loaders in the vehicle. He was arrested for carrying without a permit but the charges were dropped because he was traveling from his place of business to his residence which is allowed under state law, but this isn't the point. The point is when I went to the local PD to get my gun back the cheif made the comment about how many rounds were in the evidence bag. He acted like it was a crime to carry a gun with 6 in the cylinder and 12 in speedloaders. My brother had also mentioned to me that the cop that arrested him was totally freaked out about the multiple reloads. My town is very small and way country and I'd always seemed to think it was firearm friendly (when I was in high school just over a decade ago it wasn't uncommon to see myself and dozens of other hunters with rifles/shotguns in the back windows of trucks in the school parking lot) but after this little experience I'm beginning to wonder.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:06 PM
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depends on the state. here in the gun-hating state of new jersey (man i really need to cross the border into Pennsylvania) magazines are limited to 15 rounds. (shotguns i believe are limited to 8 unless hunting then its only 3) but you can have 15 +1 so 16 total in the firearm. but then again it is nearly impossible to get a carry permit here so it doesnt much matter anyway, unless its for home defense.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:17 PM
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I carry a 1911 with 8+1 in gun and spare 10 rounder. If I get to feeling under armed I plan to recruit me a rifle squad with a SAW.
Throw that Saw over here, I cannot hit much and am deaf anyways. Just point where you want the base of fire.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:56 PM
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My EDC is a G19. Is EDC bencause I carry it to work where I spend most of my time on an avg day. I don't carry any extra mags, 2 cell phones is enough...lol. But there is no limit unless there is a law that states a limit. In Pa I can carry an AK pistol with a 100 round drum of 7.62 and another 5 drums on my belt. It is odd and and over the top but not illegal.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:43 PM
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Ya know?

I think a legal limit on extra rounds is about as idiotic as a legal limit on the cash that any law abiding citizen can possess.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:44 PM
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I have been in a few gunfights and have only used all eight rounds in my Colt 45 ONCE and that was only because there were three attackers. And in the other incidents, one shot from my trusty revolver was enough to end the hostilities. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of criminals are looking for an easy target and any resistance is usually enough to send them running. The emphasis on high capacity magazines is driven by Hollywood's unrealistic depiction of gun battles. If any of us needs more than fifteen rounds in a pistol, we are in the wrong situation.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:12 PM
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I think everyone should carry what they are comfortable with...of course if you are carrying a 9mm you should carry more than if you are carrying a .45...52 rounds of 9mm sounds about right. I carry 8+8+1 of .45.

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Old 05-01-2012, 05:21 PM
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"Averages" don't mean jack! Good luck on that exit strategy, if you're full of the other guy's bullets! I posted about a friend of mine who was involved in a real gunfight. The shooting started at about 40 yards. He was carrying a G17, which saved his life. If he'd only had 8 rounds, he'd be dead now. It's also foolish to think that you'll have the opportunity for a mag change, too.
If averages don't mean jack, I guess we all should start carrying rifles in case the next gun fight starts at 100 yards. Just sayin.

No offense intented Walter, just having a little fun.

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Old 05-01-2012, 08:47 PM
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To paraphrase Clint Smith: If you ever in a gunfight, you will never wish you had less ammo or a smaller gun.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:56 PM
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I carry my Glock 17 during my work hours and with it I have 2 spare mags. Thats 51 9mm rounds and 1 in the chamber.
Is there any legal limit as to how many rounds your normal Joe the Plumber can carry? Seems like a lot, but better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Its a complicated world we live in.
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I know of no legal limit; but that is certainly a lot of rounds. My thinking is if you should need that many rounds, you are in a war and not a gunfight. You should have brought a rifle or shotgun with you with extra rounds.
Sate Police here carried the Sig 220 for years with two extra mags and loved them. Of course they carried a M - 4 in their cruisers also.
But hey if it makes you feel better carry it.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:23 PM
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I know of no legal limit; but that is certainly a lot of rounds. My thinking is if you should need that many rounds, you are in a war and not a gunfight. You should have brought a rifle or shotgun with you with extra rounds.
Sate Police here carried the Sig 220 for years with two extra mags and loved them. Of course they carried a M - 4 in their cruisers also.
But hey if it makes you feel better carry it.
My G17 has 17+1 and I have a double mag holder that takes 2X17. It would be silly to carry 1-17 in a holder that takes 2.
I have a physical job and need a holder with a retention flap over the mags.
I do have a single holder but it stays on my non work pants.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:12 AM
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I have been in a few gunfights and have only used all eight rounds in my Colt 45 ONCE and that was only because there were three attackers. And in the other incidents, one shot from my trusty revolver was enough to end the hostilities. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of criminals are looking for an easy target and any resistance is usually enough to send them running. The emphasis on high capacity magazines is driven by Hollywood's unrealistic depiction of gun battles. If any of us needs more than fifteen rounds in a pistol, we are in the wrong situation.
If one were not in "the wrong situation," one wouldn't need any rounds, to begin with, would one?? In these days of threats of violence by the kind of folks that tend to gather in groups, how is it possible to have too many rounds?

I'm curious as to what caused you to be in so many gunfights? You mean where you're exchanging gunfire with a b.g.?? Even cops I know rarely, if ever, get in real gunfights.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:37 AM
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If one were not in "the wrong situation," one wouldn't need any rounds, to begin with, would one?? In these days of threats of violence by the kind of folks that tend to gather in groups, how is it possible to have too many rounds?

I'm curious as to what caused you to be in so many gunfights? You mean where you're exchanging gunfire with a b.g.?? Even cops I know rarely, if ever, get in real gunfights.
I was never a police officer but back when I was a foolish adrenaline junkie, I got into the private security business ( which is big in Detroit right now) and worked in a lot of places where even uniformed cops did not like to go in unless there were in groups of five or more. The worse place was a bar that was in the middle of a motorcycle gang turf war. The gunfight in question happened when a girl I was dating was a witness in a drug related murder trial and three members of the gang decided to try to intimidate/kill her when she was with me one day in my car. Back then, I always had a pistol in my vehicle (despite laws saying otherwise), and had to exchange a few rounds with these three miscreants ( who opened fire first). And the moment I fired back at them, two of them turned tail and ran, The third one fired about three more times, before he took a round in the chest and he was still standing! I found out later he was wearing a bulletproof vest. Two of the three were later found dead in a house in Detroit, apparently killed by their fellow gang members to keep them from talking to the DEA. But there is no doubt in my mind that they would have killed me just for fun.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:01 PM
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Now I feel like I'm overdoing it...

I have at least 12 mags for each of my guns, but this is to cut down on having to reload at the range, more than anything else.

I'm not a CC licensee yet (probably next month), so I don't carry any magazines except to the range and back. I always make sure I have one unshot magazine in the bag when I'm finished, though.


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Old 05-09-2012, 02:36 AM
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I have read this entire thread, and there are several things I think need to be said.

1) We do not ask the government for permission. This must be your frame of mind. We the People are in charge of this country. The second we forget that, we are lost as a free people. I say this because of the way some of these post sound when I read them. Some of you sound like you have given up or maybe have forgotten that we are in charge. You must be willing to defend your Rights with force if needed.

2) The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting. It is not about collecting or using sporting goods. The 2nd Amendment was meant to arm the citizen against our government and it's standing army should that government ever get out of control. The intent was to make sure no government army was more powerful than the citizens. Anything less is giving up your God given and Constitutionally Protected Rights.

3) Our words matter. I own a Glock 20. My Glock 20 has a STANDARD Capacity magazine that holds 15 rounds of 10mm. The 10 round magazines were government required Reduced Capacity magazines. So the 17 round magazines for your model 17 Glock 9mm are not High Capacity magazines they are the STANDARD Capacity magazines for that model Glock handgun. Words matter and we are loosing this battle of words with the Liberals and Socialists who are trying to disarm us in the eyes of an un-educated public. It is all too easy for them ask why you need a High Capacity magazine, it is harder for them to ask you to give up your Standard Capacity magazines in favor of a reduced capacity magazine. The first argument puts the burden on us, the second argument places the burden on them.

4) Lastly, my EDC is the weapon I choose to defend my own life and the life of my family. It is a personal choice, and should be something that I am comfortable with. That being said, I have always thought about being at work when something bad happens. Who knows what that will be? It could be my truck breaking down and I can't call some one because my cell phone battery is dead. It could be a car jacking. It could be a Solar Flare that destroys the power grid and causes a natural disaster, followed by panic in the streets. It could be a Not Guilty verdict in the Travon Martin case for George Zimmerman and all Hell breaks loose on a scale that makes the 1992 L.A. Riots look small and timid. It could even be aliens from space...

All of that a side, my EDC needs to either help me fight my way out of a car jacking, or help me fight my way to my truck where I have a GHB, or help me fight my way to my daughter's school so that we can make it home together during a natural disaster, or help me fight my way to safety for any reason. Seeing as I have no idea what that might be, I fall back to simple logic. It is better to have and not need, than to need and not have. During the L.A. Riots and after the Hurricanes in Louisiana store owners had to defend their livelihood. Can you do any of the things I have mentioned with a snubby and five or six extra rounds in your pocket? Sure you could, but wouldn't you want to have more?

My life is important to me. I am not going to give up just because I was foolish to think 6 rounds in a revolver was enough... or 8+1 and an 8 round spare magazine were enough. The logic of; "If the rounds in my gun aren't enough then I'm SOL and way-in-over-my-head anyway, so a spare magazine is a waist of time..." is stupid in my opinion. My family is important to me, so my EDC for the last 10 or 11 years has been a 10mm Glock 20 with more than two spare magazines. I often carry as many as four 15 round Standard Capacity magazines. So if I'm at the Wisconsin State Fair during flash mob season, or trying to get home during a nation wide power outage that might last for months, I should have a better than average chance of making home a live.



I have over 9000 rounds through this Glock with out a gun related or magazine related malfunction. It has been 100% reliable from the day I took it out of that plastic box.

My long time favorite load for concealed carry has been the Winchester 175gr. Silvertip JHP which expands to about .770 of an inch. Thats a 3/4 inch lead slug boys and girls. That is not bad at all.






My new favorite load for almost everything is 165gr. Gold Dot JHPs loaded with 10.2 grains of 800-X which expands to about 1.200 inches and stops in the second water jug, more often than not.






So what ever you carry to defend your own life and the lives of your loved ones... make sure you carry enough ammunition to get back home safely no matter what come before you.




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Old 05-09-2012, 07:07 AM
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You have some valid points and as wild as Detroit has gotten of late and with the "spillover" crime that accompanies it, I am starting to reconsider my opinion on extra ammunition.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:46 AM
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Carry what you are comfortable with...more ammo isn't a bad thing but is far better to be aware of one's surroundings and never have to use any of it.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:49 PM
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You have some valid points and as wild as Detroit has gotten of late and with the "spillover" crime that accompanies it, I am starting to reconsider my opinion on extra ammunition.
I didn't even think about Detroit. Holy Crap, you guys and girls up there are in the middle of a combat zone on some of those streets. I often tell folks; "Crime is mobile." The bad guys have cars too. So just because you are in a "Safe" part of town, you could very easily find yourself in a very bad way in a quick hurry. From some of things I have heard about Detroit, I wouldn't go anywhere near that place with out my M4-gery in my truck.



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Carry what you are comfortable with...more ammo isn't a bad thing but is far better to be aware of one's surroundings and never have to use any of it.
This is a given, at least in my book.




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Old 05-09-2012, 12:57 PM
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Funny this should come up. My brother was pulled over and searched. He had my 66 with 2 speed loaders in the vehicle.

The point is when I went to the local PD to get my gun back the chief made the comment about how many rounds were in the evidence bag. He acted like it was a crime to carry a gun with 6 in the cylinder and 12 in speed loaders.

My brother had also mentioned to me that the cop that arrested him was totally freaked out about the multiple reloads.
This is a break down of the fabric our society, when the good people who have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of this Country, have no idea what the Constitution says or means or what the Constitution even does, it is a sad day...




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Old 05-09-2012, 01:01 PM
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This is a break down of the fabric our society, when the good people who have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of this Country, have no idea what the Constitution says or means or what the Constitution even does, it is a sad day...




Fortunately there are still good LEO's out there. We have some on this forum and quite a few where I live. In my neck of the woods a 6 shooter with only 2 reloads would be considered a tourist
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