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Colt Commander XSE (O4012XSE)?
Remember seeing a thread on the SA forum a while back where a forum member was looking for a Springfield TRP (and eventually found one!) and thought I'd see if anyone here can help me track down a Colt Commander XSE (Model #O4012XSE).
Long story short, I put down a deposit for a Commander XSE last November at my LGS. Had a chance to buy a 100 Year Anniversary model but passed on it because Colt was still using the duckbill safety instead of the newer upswept beavertail that they've been advertising since 2011. Anyway, nearly 5 months later, still no Commander at my LGS and Colt Customer Service tells me that they produce these every other month... (apparently, they're still using the duckbill safeties so I guess I'll be asking my local gunsmith to install a beavertail safety when I do finally track one down!) If anyone happens to come across one anywhere, would appreciate a heads up. =) Thanks in advance! |
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I like the "duckbill" grip safety over what I call the 'goosebut", but you probably could have bought the "duckbill" gun then sent it back to Colt and got your "goosebut" probably for nothing, esp. if they put one in an add.
I know my .45 Defender has the "duckbill" and my 9mm has the "goosebut" Defenders are Aluminum alloy frames wiith steel slides. ![]() Both my XSE Commanders have the "duckbill". A .45 and a 38 Super I bought used. These are also Aluminum alloy frames with steel slides. ![]() For me the "duckbill" sits in my hand. I can shoot my Dan Wesson Commander size gun in 10mm and I wish it had a "duckbill" grip safety. I am not going to change it but "bang" with hot handloads and it is an all steel gun.
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It's personal preference. I prefer the higher grip that I can get with the upswept beavertail grip safety. I actually had the duckbill on both my Govt XSE and my Defender before switching them to the upswept beavertail type GS that are on all my other 1911s.
Colt's position on the duckbill vs. upswept beavertail grip safety is that as a consumer, I have the choice to purchase the gun or not. If I don't like the duckbill, then don't buy it. (This is why I didn't buy the 100 Year Commander... I was hoping that by early 2012, the duckbill would have been phased out... as of today, according to Colt CS, they're still using the duckbill.) Since it looks like Colt isn't switching to the advertised GS for the time being, I've accepted that I'll have to pay to "upgrade" to the GS I want. =) Here's my Defender after I put some $$ into it after deciding to replace the duckbill GS. Anyway, if anyone comes across a Commander XSE for sale, please let me know!! |
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Bought three XSE models in the last two years; Combat Elite, stainless LW Commander and a LW Govt. Model.
All have the beavertail GS. I agree with Dakota; I'll bet Colt would have taken care of it for you. I've sent Colts back twice to Brent; you couldn't have gotten any better service than what I've gotten. Rick Rick |
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Was much cheaper (and faster) to have my local gunsmith install the parts then to send it to Colt so that's what I ended up doing for both my Govt XSE and my Defender. |
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I have one I may sell if interested
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Colt has been using that Duckbill since the '90's. I bought a Gov't model Enhanced in 1995 and replaced the duckbill with an Ed Brown GS.Much better
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Brent will take care of you-he has my XSE 5" gun as we speak getting the beavertail put on no charge.
It is kind of strange how they all go down the assembly line and some get the beavertail and some get the duckbill. But Brent will help you if you want to go down that road- I also have them checkering the front strap and tuning the trigger a little, now I gotta just wait, that's the hard part |
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Lucky me...the 100 Year LW XSE Commander I got almost a year ago had the upswept beavertail. In fact, I haven't noticed an XSE Commander for sale around me (CT) that hasn't had this GS.
![]() Of course, you see damn few Colt Commanders for sale here in the Nutmeg State. Odd, huh? |
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BullitBoy, wish Brent can help me find one first... at this point, even if it doesn't have the upswept beavertail grip safety... I've had a deposit on one with my local gun shop since November!
Legion599, nice! I wonder if the LW Commander uses a different set of parts than the standard Commander... |
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Except for the alloy frame; all other parts should be the same.
Rick |
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They disappeared from the gun selling/auction sites for a while but they're starting to show up again. Here's a link to a LW Commander XSE that had the 100 Years of Service roll mark on Gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=283763720. I think I saw some others on there also if you don't want the LW version. Good luck and happy hunting.
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My 2010 Combat Elite came with the Smith & Alexander beaver tail. It rattled like a diamondback.
I was looking for an XSE Commander on Gunbroker and came across one auction the had pics of two different guns. Only difference was the grip safety. I think Colt should make up its mind and stick to one or the other. It's an actual Colt model, not a parts gun.
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My new .45 Defender (not marked 100 years of service) came with an upswept bevertail. I was very happy. When I ordered it, I settled that it would have a ducktail. Maybe Colt has switched.
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I purchased this one about a month ago! First Colt and 1911.http://forums.1911forum.com/attachme...4&d=1335486497
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Thanks everyone!
Looks like Colt finally made the switch on the O4012XSE Commander production. Found a dealer that just got a shipment in all with the new upswept beavertail grip safety. If anyone else is looking for the O4012XSE Commander, PM me (not sure if I can just post the info here) and I'll let you know the dealer (I think they have 7 left). Now, gotta wait 2-3 days for the gun to arrive at my FFL and another 10 day CA infringement of my 2A rights before the Commander comes home... |
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Glad you found some!
Rick |
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Guess I'm crazy but I LOVE the "duckbill" on mine!ImageUploadedByTapatalk1335628990.152964.jpg
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Can't figure out how to edit my previous post.
Please do not PM me anymore as I've referred more people than there were guns available! Good luck to those still looking for the Commander XSE! |
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I wish mine had come with the newer version. Although, I would not get rid of my duckbill...
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My Commander is home! It only took 6 months to track it down and 1 month to make a quick trip back to Colt but it's finally here to stay.
Thanks Brent for amazing customer service and keeping me updated during the whole time my Colt was away! Even sent me the photo above to let me know how everything turned out. Awesome!! |
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Deleted... didn't read far enough to see that you had found one which made my post a null point.
Last edited by Siklid; 06-07-2012 at 03:44 PM. |
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