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Old 04-14-2012, 09:47 AM
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Adjustable Sight on Classic Target II doesn't work!!!




I just purchased a slightly used Classic Target II and attempted to sight it in yesterday. Using a bench rest, it consistently hit about 6" below target at 50ft away. I tried to lower the back sight, but it is already bottomed out and will not lower any more.

Can I remove the rear sight to determine if it is "hanging up" on something or should I just purchase another back sight? If I get a new back sight, what type do I get? I've heard that Kimber has a proprietary keyway for sights. Thanks if you can help.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:51 AM
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Rear sights move in the direction you want the shot to go .... raise it. Fronts are opposite
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:06 AM
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Your doing to backwards. Raise the rear sight to bring the front sight higher; thus making your shot impact higher on the target.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:23 AM
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In order to hit on target I have to place the front sight above level to make it hit center. In other words, the front of the gun is tilted up and the rear sight is below the top of the front sight. So, you're saying if I align the gun itself exactly where it needs to be to hit dead center, I simply move the rear sight up until they are even? So, the "UP" means that the shot moves up as the rear sight moves up? Perhaps I am just an idiot.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:32 AM
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You move the rear sight in the direction you want the shot to go. When you raise the rear sight, you will tilt the front of the gun up so the front sight aligns with the top of the rear sight. This will raise the point of impact.

You need to raise the rear sight and shoot and see where it prints. You keep doing that until you shoot just a bit high. Then turn it down a click at a time until you shoot to the point of aim.

The way to remember sight movement for point of impact vs. point of aim is FORS. Front Opposite, Rear Same.

Want to shoot higher: raise the rear sight or lower the front sight

Want to shoot lower: lower the rear sight or raise the front sight.

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Old 04-14-2012, 11:56 AM
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You might want to change the title of your post from "Adjustable Sight on Classic Target II doesn't work!!!" to "I Don't Know How Adjustable Sights Work!!!"

(we're here to help)
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:09 PM
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I collect more than I shoot due to some physical injuries (like crushing my head under a farm tractor in 2006). I had to learn to walk again at the University of Michigan and couldn't move my right arm for months. Plus, I can't see well with my left eye since I also damaged the optic nerve and had to have the entire eye cavity reconstructed. So I can't see well, have double vision, a very poor back, and a bad right arm.

Now don't you feel like a big jerk!

I'm just playing. That really did happen to me, but I don't complain. I'm the only person who's survived a head trauma from a tractor that I know, so I'm blessed. My kids call me "One Eyed Willy" or the "Pimp Gimp" so we make jokes about it all the time.

If I could rename the post to "I'm an idiot...Help!" I would.

Thank you to everyone for explaining how sight adjustment works. It is greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:35 PM
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Most of us here have asked the occasional "stupid question" or two. Or twelve. You generally won't receive too much ridicule, except in jest.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:34 PM
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I was always told that the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked...
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:34 PM
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Ok, now everyone stop posting so less people read how moronic I am. Crap! I just did it again.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:25 AM
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Don't worry about getting it wrong. I teach a lot of firearms classes, and for some reason, that up/down, left/right sight movement is always the hardest concept to grasp.

In other words...it ain't just you! And it doesn't help when they label the rear sight "UP" without saying they are not talking about the sight, but POI.

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Old 04-15-2012, 11:57 AM
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And it doesn't help when they label the rear sight "UP" without saying they are not talking about the sight, but POI.

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It's the same thing. 'Up' for the sight, 'Up' for the bullet.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:04 PM
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I was always told that the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked...
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I like to say there is no such thing as a stupid question the first time someone asks it.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:12 PM
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I like to say there is no such thing as a stupid question the first time someone asks it.
As a slow learner, I find that moderately offensive.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:35 PM
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There is a thing that happens when the sights are off center a bit. I don't fully understand why it affects the POI, but it does.

When the sight is cocked off to one side in the dovetail. You can sometimes bottom the sight out and still have the be off. I re-centered my sight and now have plenty of room before I bottom out.
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