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Old 09-12-2011, 10:45 PM
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:34 PM
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:18 AM
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Always good reading when these threads come up every now and then. I tend to seek feedback from members that I trust, but also love reading what others are using too. The stickies on here are really good as are their authors IMHO.

With that said I took the advice from what I read and discussed with certain members... I am first concerned with reliable feeding into my 1911. Ballistics and performance next. I run with Golden Saber 230 JHP. Feeds well, accurate, good ballistics and decent expansion. I am going to further my carry ammo to AYSM and what Stan Chen loads. If they feed like I hear, and all else are above what I currently run I am expecting good things. But in my reload mag I carry 230 FMJ. If I need more then my first 9 rounds, then my thought is I need more penetration. I don't run a mixed cocktail, just two different rounds in two different mags. YMMV of course.
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:25 AM
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:01 AM
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Currently Gold Dot 200gr +P. Figure it can stand to have a little extra pressure if I'm not letting several hundred fly.

I've also carried Gold Dot (standard pressure) 230gr and 185gr on and off. Say what you want about the Taurus, but it'll happily shoot anything I give it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:43 PM
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I've got two 1911s that I carry regularly. At one time I have carried Winchester 230gr SXT, Hornady TAP 230gr +P, Remington 230gr Golden Saber, or Speer 200 gr Gold Dot.

Now the latest whizz-bang bullet is supposed to be the Barnes TAC-XP.

I have decided to switch to Winchester Ranger 230gr Bonded (RA45B) in my 1911s and stay with it. I feel that it is a good blend of penetration and expansion and it costs about $27 for a box of 50 which makes it very economical compared to the others. I know, "Money is no object when it comes to your personal safety", but if that were true then I would just have two armed bodyguards follow me everywhere.
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:59 PM
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I've got two 1911s that I carry regularly. At one time I have carried Winchester 230gr SXT, Hornady TAP 230gr +P, Remington 230gr Golden Saber, or Speer 200 gr Gold Dot.

Now the latest whizz-bang bullet is supposed to be the Barnes TAC-XP.

I have decided to switch to Winchester Ranger 230gr Bonded (RA45B) in my 1911s and stay with it. I feel that it is a good blend of penetration and expansion and it costs about $27 for a box of 50 which makes it very economical compared to the others. I know, "Money is no object when it comes to your personal safety", but if that were true then I would just have two armed bodyguards follow me everywhere.
The barnes bullets show promise in that they don't fragment, show as close to 100% reliability as you can get with a hollowpoint to date, deeper than average penetration, and good terminal effects, both in hunting applications as well as testing environments.

It's good, and it does what it needs to do, but then, so do about a dozen other designs.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:32 PM
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Yeah Delta, I've seen tests done with the Barnes bullet and it seems to perform as advertised. I've just decided to standardize my carry ammo with the Winchester load.

Part of the reason is that it feeds reliably in my carry pistols and I have confidence in the Winchester bonded bullet and the other part is economics.

I've been shooting and carrying for a long time now and I think I'm just becoming crotchety and tired of looking for the next best thing.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:49 AM
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:06 AM
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:27 PM
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:54 PM
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:09 PM
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I have one mag full of Hornady Critical Defence 185's. They seem alright, but a little whimpy, it was the best they had in stock when I bought the gun. Once I shoot those up I'll either switch to the Hornady or Hydrashock 230+P.

Second mag is full of ball, in case the HP's don't work
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:00 AM
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I carry Winchester Ranger RA45TP (+P) on the rare occasion that I do carry a 1911. That said, I wouldn't feel like I was doing anything wrong carrying some value pack 230gr. Winchester Whitebox.

Standard pressure 230gr. ball did the job just fine long before hollowpoints were common in the 1911.

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Old 09-25-2011, 05:45 AM
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Right now I carry 200 gr. EFMJ that I've had for some time. It feeds well, etc.

Since I've never had to use it on any living thing, I cannot speak to how effective it is.

Hopefully, I'll have it for a very long time, while I use other stuff for range ammo.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:52 AM
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I used the federal 230 gr. Hydro shok round for years. In the last year or so availability got scarce. While in my local Walmart I noticed they carry Winchesters new PDX1 round. It's accurate, bonded, the powder is low flash, the cases have the nickel/ chrome plate on them, and they sell for a very reasonable price. I'm pretty happy with it as my carry ammo.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:22 PM
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I use to use Speer's 200 gr Flying Ashtray until it's demise. I still have a box jealously guarded. Today, it's the 230 gr Ranger T.

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Old 09-27-2011, 08:35 PM
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Golden Saber 230gr.

(Speer Gold Dot is the only thing that I've found that won't feed reliably in my DW Valor.)
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:50 PM
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230 grain Hydra-shocks or hardball.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:14 AM
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Gold Dot 230 gr standard pressure and Gold Dot 230 gr Short Barrel in my Glock 30sf and HK USP Compact.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:04 PM
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:23 PM
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230 grain Hydra-shocks or hardball.
I would probably invest in either some of the schp loads or federal hst. The Hydrashoks have several documented issues that could reduce their efficacy in the field.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:10 PM
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I carry Federal Hydrashoks, like a majority of folks here, except I shoot the 165gr bullet with the lower-velocity powder loading. All discussions about expansion, fragmentation, and velocities at distance are academically interesting, but I picked this load because I get the shakes in real high-stress shooting, and I'll trade overall power to be able to more reliably land more rounds on target in the shortest amount of time. And since I'm just a civilian now and have no reason to go initiating trouble at range, I'm confident enough planning that any situation I'd ever have to shoot would be very close range and only long enough for me to get out of that situation, so this works dandy for me. And push comes to shove, a half inch piece of metal, even un-expanded and intact, is still a half-inch piece of metal making a half inch hole, so whatever bad guy is on the receiving end is still not going to be making any long-term plans after catching a few in the chest.
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:46 PM
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I recently switched to Remington +P 185 gr HP for my Kimber aluminum framed Ultra. I previously used an all copper bullet like the Barnes and have been advised that they can scratch feed ramps.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:14 AM
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I recently switched to Remington +P 185 gr HP for my Kimber aluminum framed Ultra. I previously used an all copper bullet like the Barnes and have been advised that they can scratch feed ramps.
I wonder who advised you of such, as this is false. The copper used in the SCHPs is no harder than the copper used in jacketed hollowpoints.

I've used a few thousand rounds of them in aluminum framed 1911s without an issue, although on reloading the hollowpoints do tend to deform.
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