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Old 03-03-2010, 12:39 PM
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What is a "melt?"




On the Kimber site I keep seeing things like "service melt" and "carry melt." I've searched the site, but not really sure what to search for as "melt" brings up a lot of random posts. What is a melt?
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:40 PM
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I think they are varying degrees of "de-horning" or taking down the sharp edges of the pistol.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:42 PM
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Could be a patty melt. Or it could be the amount that sharp or squared edges and corners are rounded. For carry, it's nice to have a gun that's rounded and smooth so as not to catch on anything and may be more comfortable.

The difference in service and carry is that carry will be more rounded and smooth. Look at a Pro Carry and a CDP Pro and notice the edges and corners of the slide.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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Patty Melt

Here's my most "melted" gun. It's a Kimber RCPII. Even the mag catch is melted(looks like it's been smeared).



The CDPs seem to have even more melt.

If one has to grab quickly to rack a slide in haste,not having sharp edges on bottom of slide,sharp sights,etc. is a big plus. (I have delicate hands.)

Once you start looking at a lot of guns,it's easy to tell which ones have been softened up a little. Beveling,melting,(whatever) the bottom of the slide is not only functional,I think it looks good too.

The melting is not accomplished with heat;but,rather a file and/or machining.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:02 PM
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The "Meltdown" from Clark Custom

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Old 03-03-2010, 01:13 PM
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Wow that is gorgeous,it makes my heart "melt".
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:31 PM
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Puddles!

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Wow that is gorgeous, it makes my heart "melt".
Just so we're clear, that's not my pistola; it's just a pic (hotlinked!) off the Clark Custom website I put up for informational purposes (one pic, a thousand words and all that dontchaknow) so they get all the credit for making your ticker go buttery.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:35 PM
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Just added another to the bucket list.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:01 PM
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Beauty! The bbl bushing and slide blending is stupendous! LOTS of other melting going on. Very hand-friendly,I'm sure.

PS:Not only hand-friendly;but,carry-friendly in general. Only thing that should
be rough are the cocking serrations. I think Les Baer gets that award.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:32 PM
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Kimber says that all of there pistols come with rounded and beveled edges. I can't tell the difference in the service melt though. I can see it a little in the carry melts. Is it just the slide that is melted?
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Old 03-03-2010, 03:13 PM
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If you were to take a Kimber with no "melt" at all and compare to almost any other (maybe all) production 1911 manufactures, for the most part you'll find the edges are taken down. It's a very minute detail that you don't usually see unless you look close.

The "melt" just takes it beyond the edges.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:44 PM
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The "melt" just takes it beyond the edges.
I think what Kimber does is "de-horn"; as in, knocking down the sharp edges without losing the angles. This, in my opinion, is a practical step. "Melting" to me appears to mean something akin to "going a bit nuts with the belt-sander" - like the Clark I picture above - and is more of an aesthetic thing. Yes, it has practical application, but let's be real... That much smoothing goes well beyond what's needed to achieve function and is in the realm of pure aesthetic. Where "de-horning" leaves off and "melting" begins is up to anyone's personal interpretation.

Personally, I like a little de-horning. My Springfield needed it BAD right out of the box (the cocking serrations would actually cut my skin). Melting though, in my opinion, looks a little silly to my eye. I can see how you might like it, I just don't.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:20 PM
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Yeah, Clark has probably the most melted look of any 1911's out there. Makes a CDP look rough around the edges Alot of people say a good melt job resembles a bar of soap. But a Clark melt job looks the soap that's almost too worn down to use
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:23 PM
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Kimber does a good job of melting/de-horning on the CDP. I'm happy with it.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:36 PM
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Kimber does a good job of melting/de-horning on the CDP. I'm happy with it.
Unfortunately the gunstore I went to had both the Ultra CDP II and the Ultra Stainless Raptor II in their display case. Had to choose between the two. Did like the Carry Melt on the CDP II but chose the Raptor instead. Very happy with my choice but would have been happy with the CDP II too. Very nice gun! Jerry
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:10 PM
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Thanks. I have the Stainless Ultra Raptor too and it's a great gun.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:09 PM
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Here's my most "melted" gun. It's a Kimber RCPII. Even the mag catch is melted(looks like it's been smeared).



The CDPs seem to have even more melt.

If one has to grab quickly to rack a slide in haste,not having sharp edges on bottom of slide,sharp sights,etc. is a big plus. (I have delicate hands.)

Once you start looking at a lot of guns,it's easy to tell which ones have been softened up a little. Beveling,melting,(whatever) the bottom of the slide is not only functional,I think it looks good too.

The melting is not accomplished with heat;but,rather a file and/or machining.
I've seen this gun in a gun store, but never on the Kimber site. At least not in that form. Do you have to custom order it?
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:39 PM
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Chewy,from what I can gather,the RCP,as such, was manufactured some years ago before the RCPII came out(2008?). Same basic configuration but without the firing pin safety. (I think the original had a spur on the hammer?)

There are no pics now in the Kimber catalog because,as I understand it,they have been discontinued. I have seen a couple in gunshops either used or new old stock.

I have no idea if Kimber would make a custom order with the "trench" sights, abbreviated grip safety,spurless hammer,and extreme melt.

My RCPII has a ramped bbl. Makes sense to me,on an alloy-framed gun.

I sometimes carry it as a backup to my full-size 1911. For a "1911" it will disappear easily IWB or coat pocket. I do enjoy shooting it;and,do not worry about the alloy feed ramp('cause it doesn't have an alloy feed ramp). I shoot the snot out of it. Had a very few feed problems/slide stop swap in first couple of months.

Just have to replace recoil springs every 1800 rounds as per the instruction manual.

If the frame cracks I do wonder if Kimber will fix it for free. One year warranty and all that... You'll here about it here if/when it happens.

When I picked up this gun it was love at first fondle. I had to have it;and,have no regrets. Would buy another or something very similar,like a Colt New Agent. It is a "niche" gun I reckon;not for everybody.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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Rcpii

I've posted these before. My apologies to SRJim.





Check the weirdass little hammer:

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Old 03-04-2010, 01:53 PM
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I don't get the hammer on the RCP. If you carry the gun in condition 1 then you have this little hammer sticking out. If you don't, then the option I see to cock the gun is the rack the slide. Can you shed some light on this?
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:00 PM
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:02 PM
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...the option I see to cock the gun is the rack the slide. Can you shed some light on this?
Yes, and racking the slide is the proper way.

And I also don't fully understand the bobbed hammer if it's being carried as designed, but I think Kimber may have gotten it, as they've changed the hammer on the Aegis which was also bobbed originally.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:27 PM
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Chewy,from what I can gather,the RCP,as such, was manufactured some years ago before the RCPII came out(2008?). Same basic configuration but without the firing pin safety. (I think the original had a spur on the hammer?)

There are no pics now in the Kimber catalog because,as I understand it,they have been discontinued. I have seen a couple in gunshops either used or new old stock.

I have no idea if Kimber would make a custom order with the "trench" sights, abbreviated grip safety,spurless hammer,and extreme melt.

My RCPII has a ramped bbl. Makes sense to me,on an alloy-framed gun.

I sometimes carry it as a backup to my full-size 1911. For a "1911" it will disappear easily IWB or coat pocket. I do enjoy shooting it;and,do not worry about the alloy feed ramp('cause it doesn't have an alloy feed ramp). I shoot the snot out of it. Had a very few feed problems/slide stop swap in first couple of months.

Just have to replace recoil springs every 1800 rounds as per the instruction manual.

If the frame cracks I do wonder if Kimber will fix it for free. One year warranty and all that... You'll here about it here if/when it happens.

When I picked up this gun it was love at first fondle. I had to have it;and,have no regrets. Would buy another or something very similar,like a Colt New Agent. It is a "niche" gun I reckon;not for everybody.
I have a RCP as well ( one of my 10 Kimbers, yes I am a kimberholic) Mine was sitting in my local gun store for year and I keep seeing it and holding andn falling in love with it. Anyway, finally, I made them a low offer ($800, I think) and they took the offer! Anyway, it initially had some problems for which I had to return it to Kimber ( 2 shots per trigger pull, scary) and they fixed it. I have laser grips on my. A fantastic deep carry gun.

the hammer on mine is different than yours, though. Bigger but still bobbed. I am at work but will look at it and post pic when I get home.

Kimber used to have a wonderful section which included all of the old guns. Can't find it on their site anymore. I read about the RCP on there a while back. It was a limited run custom shop gun. If I remember right, only 1200 were produced.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:51 PM
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Shadw,would like to see your RCP and the different hammer!
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:11 PM
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Wow 10 Kimbers!!! Great collection. So many Kimbers and so little time.
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