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Old 02-28-2010, 08:45 PM
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So Saturday i went to the gun show in Wilmington Nc. Walked out with my wallet 800 dollars lighter and a high standard GI 1911 (made by armscor) and a RIA GI standard. I immediately went to the range. High standard shot amazingly. Point of aim was dead on.~(I am only 22 so the GI sights work fine for me )~ decided to load the RIA next. One magazine ofeight inserted. Pulled the trigger once... here comes the kick in the ***... eight rounds down range with one trigger pull. FReaked out not going to lie... cannot call about it until Monday. ONe last thing. Got the Wilson combat drop in beaver tail. However a little cutting will BE in order.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:49 PM
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So Saturday i went to the gun show in Wilmington Nc. Walked out with my wallet 800 dollars lighter and a high standard GI 1911 (made by armscor) and a RIA GI standard. I immediately went to the range. High standard shot amazingly. Point of aim was dead on.~(I am only 22 so the GI sights work fine for me )~ decided to load the RIA next. One magazine ofeight inserted. Pulled the trigger once... here comes the kick in the ***... eight rounds down range with one trigger pull. FReaked out not going to lie... cannot call about it until Monday. ONe last thing. Got the Wilson combat drop in beaver tail. However a little cutting will BE in order.
Was it new or used when you bought it???????? If it was used take it back to whom ever you bought it from.................

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Old 02-28-2010, 09:22 PM
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Was it new or used when you bought it???????? If it was used take it back to whom ever you bought it from.................

Clyde
Nah. Ivan (or Arnel) at Armscor will fix him up.

I do not have first hand experience, but have seen several posts talking about how guns have been fixed, with the addition of extra work done to make the gun even nicer.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:28 PM
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If you keep it you'r gonna need a bigger clip.Ammo will get expensive quick,but I bet there are guys on here that would love to have it.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:51 PM
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OH no. Keeping it but getting it fixed for sure.planning on callin Ivan tomorrow morning to see what can be done. I love the pistol. After it went auto on me I put single rounds through it and it was more accurate than me. Love it!! Amazing fit for a "cheap" pistol. Not to worried as I have heard about their excellent service
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:40 AM
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Sounds to me you avoided a potential accident.Probably a good thing you kept good gun and range safety imprinted in your shooting, cuz that little mishap good have gone pretty wrong if that would have gotten away from ya.
I owuld keep it, but i would also contact the seller and make him aware of what happened. Hopefully he didnt do some tinkering with it(if it was a used gun) or so that maybe he can be on the look out for simular occurances from other buyers, maybe a bad run off the production line...Just my $.02
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:41 PM
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You need some sear+trigger work. If it is new call Ivan have him send you a prepaid Fed X sticker, If is used call Ivan and you get to pay to send it to him.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:45 AM
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I called him yesterday and he told me to send it to him so I did. Didn't know they would send me a fedx sticker. Oh well just happy it can be fixed
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:25 AM
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I called him yesterday and he told me to send it to him so I did. Didn't know they would send me a fedx sticker. Oh well just happy it can be fixed
When he calls you to tell he has the pistol or it is fixed, ask him for a free mag.or two to pay for your out of of pocket shiipping cost.if you want anything else done to the pistol now is the time to do it, new DD grips,new trigger, new hammer,btgs, new sights,ect. their parts prices are are less than you can find anywhere,Arnel will tune the pistol,he may polish the feed ramp for you it will be sweet when you get it back.did you pay 400.00 each for them? keep us posted.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:45 AM
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I think I will do that. And technically yeah 400 a piece including taxes brand new.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:48 AM
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I'm curious. Does your being in the marines make it legal for you to
have a full-auto, personal pistol?

A civilian with that gun would be in a real sticky situation, as The Law
would view it as an unlicensed Class III weapon.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:03 AM
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It does not. Hence why I AM so anxious to GET it fixed. Had I obtained a license I may have kept it but no. I want it to function they way it is supposed to. Until then I will happily shoot my high standard :P
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:38 PM
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I'm curious. Does your being in the marines make it legal for you to
have a full-auto, personal pistol?

A civilian with that gun would be in a real sticky situation, as The Law
would view it as an unlicensed Class III weapon.

Joe
Unless the gun was issued to him, for duty, there is no legal difference between him and you.

The issues ATF would have in this situation is A) gun was just bought, B) owner took gun right to range and noticed the "issue", C) owner contacted factory about repair, D) gun wasn't designed for and isn't a common full auto. The chances of getting someone to issue an arrest warrant with that background should be tough. Not saying it couldn't happen.

Now, if ATF caught someone with a gun that they clearly knew was malfunctioning and going full auto and ATF could prove the owner never took steps to get the gun fixed, that would be another story.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:41 PM
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I'm curious. Does your being in the marines make it legal for you to
have a full-auto, personal pistol?

A civilian with that gun would be in a real sticky situation, as The Law
would view it as an unlicensed Class III weapon.

Joe
Not really understanding where your going with this one. The OP stated from the get go he is having this malfunction corrected.

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:42 PM
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It does not. Hence why I AM so anxious to GET it fixed. Had I obtained a license I may have kept it but no. I want it to function they way it is supposed to. Until then I will happily shoot my high standard :P
There is no license for Class III ownership, just a tax stamp and the returned paperwork. BTW, since '86 only the government or a licensed manufacturers can build new full autos. No new full autos for us.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:43 PM
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It does not. Hence why I AM so anxious to GET it fixed. Had I obtained a license I may have kept it but no. I want it to function they way it is supposed to. Until then I will happily shoot my high standard :P
Hey Marine,

I think the best thing you can do with this thread is drop it and just get the gun fixed. IMO, I would not post anymore on this subject as it seems there might be folks phishing to see if you will make any self-incriminating comments.

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:49 PM
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Hey Marine,

I think the best thing you can do with this thread is drop it and just get the gun fixed. IMO, I would not post anymore on this subject as it seems there might be folks phishing to see if you will make any self-incriminating comments.

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I called him yesterday and he told me to send it to him so I did. Didn't know they would send me a fedx sticker. Oh well just happy it can be fixed
The owner did what a reasonable person would do, contact the factory service depot and then ship the gun. The only other possibility would have been to drive the gun back to the selling FFL.
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:04 PM
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Sounds like the gun is out of his hands already:

The owner did what a reasonable person would do, contact the factory service depot and then ship the gun. The only other possibility would have been to drive the gun back to the selling FFL.
Agreed, the OP did the right thing immediately. What caught my attention was what looked like an attempt by another poster to get the OP to admit to some type of wrong doing on his part. Maybe I read that post wrong but something about it bugged me.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:11 PM
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hmmmm...

sounds to me like it works great and you got it at a great price others will pay big money for one that will do that...be safe and continue to use both hands on that for the sake of us all
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:11 PM
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So. I got home from work today and the ole lady told me I got a package from fed ex. So I looked. And low and behold it was my RIA. APparently fed ex could not read my handwriting. SO I took it out took it and my high standard apart. CLeaned then both and switched the Sears. GUess what? THe RIA worked fine high standard did not. Went to the local toy store got a new Sear and we are up and running. THanks for THe help everyone!! Will let you know how it shoots in THE near future
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:22 PM
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So. I got home from work today and the ole lady told me I got a package in the mail. So I looked. And low and behold it was my RIA. APparently the post office could not read my handwriting. SO I took it out took it and my high standard apart. CLeaned then both and switched the Sears. GUess what? THe RIA worked fine high standard did not. Went to the local toy store got a new Sear and we are up and running. THanks for THe help everyone!! Will let you know how it shoots in THE near future
Good deal.

BTW, if you get the chance, post a pic of the bad sear next to a good one for info purposes.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:04 PM
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Did you have the sear fit or just drop it in? If you just put it in, I would have the gun looked over by a gunsmith. 1911s are not drop in fit guns. Like on your grip safety, it is a drop in but still needs fitting to look and work correctly. I would have the trigger looked at by a gun smith to make sure everything is working as it should. If the engagement is borderline you could have a potentially dangerous gun.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:07 AM
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I had it "fit" by a local smith. He is not A big name but he does good sound work.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:36 AM
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The only thing that can cause this is a stuck firing pin or a weak firing pin spring. Both are usually simple fixes.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:32 PM
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The only thing that can cause this is a stuck firing pin or a weak firing pin spring. Both are usually simple fixes.
Along with a bad disconnecter and in this case a bad sear.
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