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Old 02-17-2010, 11:33 AM
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Is a .380 cal good enough for conceal carry?




I want to get some input from members on this topic. I've bought a Ruger LCP .380 recently and love the gun as it it so small and comfortable and it just slips in my back pocket. I mainly bought it for summer use and for occasions when I need to run to the store and do not feel like carry my Kimber Ultra II. But now I'm thinking about using my Ruger as my primary carry weapon as it is to so small and comfortable. I've read from people that they are concerned that the .380 is not a big enough caliber for CC. I personally think it is as long as you use the right ammo. I carry the Horndaddy Personal Defense ammo in mine. I will tell you what I would not want to get shot with a .380 or any caliber. Chances are I'll probably will never have to use my gun in a defensive situation but if I do I think the .380 will do the job. Hell it has worked all this time for James Bond!

Please give my your thoughts and be safe. m
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:37 AM
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Since you asked - I wouldn't carry one.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:41 AM
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Not for me.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:46 AM
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Personally i wouldnt carry a .380 if i didnt have to. But it is better than carrying nothing at all. I know there are alot of people that carry them that new Ruger is very popular.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:46 AM
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Me neither.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:48 AM
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Picture this...

A 350 pound, muscle bound ex-convict with a history of violence and rape has just demanded that you hand over your beautiful 17 year old daughter.

Is that cute little 380 gonna do the job?

If so, your good to go.

If not, maybe you should consider carrying something more effective in a worse case scenario.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:49 AM
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Maybe...and only if I had no other choice.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:58 AM
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Picture this...

A 350 pound, muscle bound ex-convict with a history of violence and rape has just demanded that you hand over your beautiful 17 year old daughter.

Is that cute little 380 gonna do the job?

If so, your good to go.

If not, maybe you should consider carrying something more effective in a worse case scenario.
Big_Jim, are you that big 350 lbs ex-convict? By the way I wouldn't have to worry about him wanting my 17 daughter as I have 2 boys. The main reason that I carry is not to kill someone but to give me an edge to slow down the attacker so I can get away.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:00 PM
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guess it's better than nothing... personally, I don't carry anything less than a .38 +P.

just heard too many stories of even 9mm, .40, .45, etc failing to immediately stop BG's.... makes the .380 just seem like too much of a gamble, even with well placed shots.

when I look around and see zero LEO's carrying .380's as a primary duty weapon, it sets off a warning in my head. if it isn't good enough for them, it's not good enough for me.

.380 as a BUG may be a different story, but as a primary carry? no way.


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Old 02-17-2010, 12:04 PM
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Of course that will work. I carry an LCP as my primary carry always. I'm sure a thug isn't going to realize that he is getting shot by a bullet that is 0.096 smaller than a .45! (.451-.355). Also, with its size, you are more likely to carry it with you everywhere, rather than leaving it on the table. Check out the stats:
http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP.html
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:11 PM
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Big_Jim, are you that big 350 lbs ex-convict? By the way I wouldn't have to worry about him wanting my 17 daughter as I have 2 boys. The main reason that I carry is not to kill someone but to give me an edge to slow down the attacker so I can get away.
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I agree in stopping the threat, some folks just need a little more to stop them than others.

I believe that when choosing a carry gun, one should be prepared for the worst case scenario. The fact that the 380 is comfortable is a great asset, I often cary a 642 because of its comfort factor, usually in conjunction with a fullsize firearm. But compromising on a small comfortable firearm in place of a more effective one, is something that I cannot do.

I do have daughters, so maybe thats where my thinking comes from. In the event that I was forced to protect them I hope to God that I was smart enough to have the best possible tool with me and not the "most comfortable".

If you want to get away, invest in a good pair of running shoes. If you want to stop evil from harming your beloved children, invest in a quality, large caliber firearm and train in it's efffective deployment and use.

As a lawman, you above any body else should know the evil that walks with the rest of us.

You asked if 380 is enough for a primary. I think not.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:13 PM
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.380caliber(9mm short) is straightly a back up weapon cartridge IMO.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:14 PM
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Big_Jim, are you that big 350 lbs ex-convict? By the way I wouldn't have to worry about him wanting my 17 daughter as I have 2 boys. The main reason that I carry is not to kill someone but to give me an edge to slow down the attacker so I can get away.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:14 PM
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Shot placement fellas,more people killed with .22 than anything else.One shot to the head with any caliber will kill someone.I saw it with my own eyes,one shot in the forehead by an inexperienced shooter(my girlfriend at the time) and they carried him out on a stretcher and had to unplug him the next day.It was deemed justifiable by LE.Saved her and probably my life.I feel more than safe with .380 loaded with buffalo bore.It is very close to 9mm in energy.Besides a .380 in your pocket is much better than a .44 at home!Carry what you are comfotabe with and practice shot placement as much as you can afford.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:19 PM
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Around and around it goes...........

I carry a Bersa Thunder .380 in a small camera back pack because of it's size and as well as the guns inherent accuracy, in my hand at least. My BHP and any of my current 1911's are just to big for that purpose (non carry state and like to keep it real low key) although one of them is as close as the car, if need be.......while the .380 rides on me.

As mentioned above, anything is better than nothing, but if you are going with a .380 learn to hit as well as you can. A lot may depend upon hitting a vital spot, when and if possible. Also, as you indicated, use good solid SD ammo.

In the end, do what you need to do in way of a caliber choice.

Be safe, shoot well.

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Old 02-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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It wouldn't be my first choice, but i've watched enough First 48 and Crime 360 to realize that many of those murders were committed using .380's. Im obviously not advocating any type of violence, and my condolences to the families of the innocent victims, but imo .380's seem to be able to get the job done if need be.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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Yes.....as long as you recognize and accept the limitations. Expect to have to make several well placed hits at very close range. You are trading power for ease of carry. Every firearm ever designed is a compromise. Make yours intelligently and I can't fault you.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:26 PM
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Shot placement fellas,more people killed with .22 than anything else.One shot to the head with any caliber will kill someone.I saw it with my own eyes,one shot in the forehead by an inexperienced shooter(my girlfriend at the time) and they carried him out on a stretcher and had to unplug him the next day.It was deemed justifiable by LE.Saved her and probably my life.
glad you both are OK...

question: did the BG go down immediately upon being hit?


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Old 02-17-2010, 12:33 PM
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glad you both are OK...

question: did the BG go down immediately upon being hit?


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yes, fell backwards down the stairs.She fired one warning shot over his head,the second one was just above the brow dead center.Never want to go through that again as long as I live.Interrogation,gunpowdwer residue tests etc.I still owe her for saving my life though.Carry what you are comfortable with and either be lucky like her or practice alot.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:33 PM
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I wouldn't feel to unarmed with a .380. In fact, I'm thinking of getting a Walther PK380 to match my P22 plinker. I think it's the minimum caliber for personal carry, at least in a crowded city setting.

That said, I think it's a matter of tactics. I don't anticipate going into a prolonged shootout with my j-frame. If confronted on the streets in a life and death situation, I plan on popping two quick shots point blank at my assailant(s) to delay/stun them long enough for me to take off in the other direction and call for help. They'd have to crazy to follow me.

Absolute concealment is also a requirement as well. Permits to carry are an extreme privilege in this state and there are cases of law-biding citizens whose LTC's were revoked because they didn't simply weren't able to conceal their guns properly and some moonbat reported them.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:38 PM
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yes, fell backwards down the stairs.She fired one warning shot over his head,the second one was just above the brow dead center.Never want to go through that again as long as I live.Interrogation,gunpowdwer residue tests etc.I still owe her for saving my life though.Carry what you are comfortable with and either be lucky like her or practice alot.

and this was with a .22LR? what kind of ammo?

again, glad you're both ok...had to be a terrible experience.


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Old 02-17-2010, 12:42 PM
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yes, fell backwards down the stairs.She fired one warning shot over his head,the second one was just above the brow dead center.Never want to go through that again as long as I live. Interrogation,gunpowdwer residue tests etc.I still owe her for saving my life though.Carry what you are comfortable with and either be lucky like her or practice alot.
Also glad to hear you both came out OK.

Good luck to you.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:47 PM
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and this was with a .22LR? what kind of ammo?

again, glad you're both ok...had to be a terrible experience.


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Just cheap brick ammo,never expected to use it for anything but plinking.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:47 PM
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Aside from the caliber/energy debate. One thing to consider is, how well do you shoot the little pocket guns?

Some of the smaller ones are difficult to shoot well, unless the range is close.

I will carry a .380 on occasion, but usually I feel better with a larger caliber and easier handling gun.

What I carry, depends largely on what I will be wearing and where I am going.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:50 PM
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You asked if 380 is enough for a primary. I think not.
Nor for me.
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