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Old 08-27-2009, 11:27 PM
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Got an Interarms Silver Cup 1911-A1 today...check it out!




Well it was between this and a Springfield GI which was $165 more, I was going to go with the Springer until i racked the slide on this thing....as tight as a Les Baer in all the right places. While at the store i did a quick Google search on the Silver Cup and only found positive comments so i snappe dit up. It has a Remington Rand slide with all Mil-Spec GI parts (or so says the box.) The parts do look authentic and the trigger is very nice. Looks like it might be an Essex frame. Does anyone know much about these guns? What years were they made?

Most likely i'm going to leave this one be....maybe re-parkerize since the finish has seen better days but that about it. Here are some pics...










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Old 08-27-2009, 11:28 PM
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:24 PM
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Hey Dusty, I've got one a those beasties. Paid 250 for it at a pawn shop unfired. Same box, same slide, frame. Serial number is SC-3XXX. I use that for casual plinking and just all around fun shooting. It's pretty much like a timex, the only issues it has is with speers flying ashtray hollowpoints, but it feeds PMC's 230gr JHP perfectly. Accuracy is combat grade holding roughly around 2.55" at 31ft. The only paperwork I have is that it was imported by Interarms of Alexandria Virginia, possibly sometime in the mid to late 1950's. The slide is a Remington Rand slide and the frame is an all forged frame. Made where? Unknown, but it apparently is of good quality because I've had it for near on 20 years and it prob has around 20k rounds and shows no signs of wear or tear. I'll know more when I can get to it after the move. It came with a generic US Government 1911A1 manual and 3 magazines with government contract numbers on it.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:31 PM
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Mine appears to be a cast frame but other than that the same as yours. I will get it to the range in the next few days and see what she can do. Thanks for the reply
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:32 PM
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You'll like it. If you go and purchase a Wolff recoil spring, Wolff extra power firing pin spring, and a titanium 70 series firing pin, she'll work just fine. Though, she will have just a tad hammer bite.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:12 PM
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I think you made a great score! You'll have fun shooting and deciding what "upgrades" you want to do first. I want to see it "finished" in two years when you have $1500. sunk into that bad boy! OLD SCHOOL!
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:54 PM
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I contacted my gunsmith today about working on it, I have a few tricked out 1911's already so the plan with this one is to trick it out a bit but keep the GI look. Reliabilty job, new firing pin, new extractor, new springs, taller "GI" style sights, and a fresh park job will just about do it. I'll post some pics when its done.
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:32 PM
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I could be wrong but the frames were made in Turkey IIRC.

The founder of Interarms was an international arms merchant. He went around Europe and Asia after WWII and bought up all the surplus arms he could up to and including trucks, artillery and tanks.

When the Brittish pulled out of Israel, he had ships ready to dock loaded with arms and munitions.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:53 AM
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Interarms was interesting fur sure. Mauser and Walther with Rossi and Star as I remember. Probably an O.K. 1911 frame.
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:31 AM
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I could be wrong but the frames were made in Turkey IIRC.

The founder of Interarms was an international arms merchant. He went around Europe and Asia after WWII and bought up all the surplus arms he could up to and including trucks, artillery and tanks.

When the Brittish pulled out of Israel, he had ships ready to dock loaded with arms and munitions.

Everything I've been learning about my Interarms leads me to the same thing. There is a new 1911 that is set to enter the US market coming out of Turkey. Whoever built the frame on mine did a very good job of it.

That said, this is one weapon that just simply looks better stock.
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:39 AM
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It says "Made in USA" on the box;are they talking about the box?

I wouldn't do anything to that gun except shoot it, if it were mine.

I like it!

Hope I can find one.
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:52 AM
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well some Springfields say made in IL even though the rough forgings come from Imbel. Guess this could be one of those situations, maybe they were cast overseas and finished here. nowhere on the gun or box does it say this was an import.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:05 PM
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More than likely, it was assembled in Alexandria Virginia by Interarms. Shipped here in kit form for final assembly, thus, Made in America.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:07 PM
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Of the two names ,Remington Rand ,and Essex;are either of these off-shore companies or use foreign-made parts? I don't know.

Wouldn't bother me either way. I really like that gun. I would buy one if I could find it at a good price.(like I'm thinking you got!) $165 less than a SA GI ! Oh yeah.

The msh,slide stop,thumb safety,and trigger just scream WWII to my untrained eye.

Just because I like them and it would not look out of place,I would install a wide-spur HAMMER(possibly used;to make it look more "fitting"). I've never had any problem with hammer-bite.

You could probably make as much as you've spent on that pistol by selling the small parts I mentioned above.

I'd rather have your gun than a SA GI;NO DOUBT.

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Old 08-29-2009, 12:11 PM
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the trigger pull is really sweet so i'm not going to mess with it. Basically i'm just gonna replace springs, any worn internal parts, taller GI sights, and reparkerize. When all is said and done i will have less then $600 into it and it will look like new. The barrel is a High Standard and locks up nice and tight, the bushing has a nice tight fit as well. As i mentioned above the slide to frame fit is super tight. I get the feeling that whoever asembled this gun at Interarms was probably a perfectionist and took his time fitting the parts. It seems to good of a build for a slapped together parts gun.

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Old 08-29-2009, 12:20 PM
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Of the two names ,Remington Rand ,and Essex;are either of these off-shore companies or use foreign-made parts? I don't know.

Wouldn't bother me either way. I really like that gun. I would buy one if I could find it at a good price.(like I'm thinking you got!) $165 less than a SA GI ! Oh yeah.

The msh,slide stop,thumb safety,and trigger just scream WWII to my untrained eye.

Just because I like them and it would not look out of place,I would install a wide-spur HAMMER(possibly used;to make it look more "fitting"). I've never had any problem with hammer-bite.

You could probably make as much as you've spent on that pistol by selling the small parts I mentioned above.

I'd rather have your gun than a SA GI;NO DOUBT.
This Interarms is designed to be a Replica of a WWII 1911. In actuality, Remington Rand made complete 1911's when the Gov issued order to various makers during wwii

Remington Rand: S/N 916,405 to 955,000 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 955,001 to 980,000 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 980,001 to 995,000 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 995,000 to 1,041,404 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 1,279,699 to 1,441,430 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 1,471,431 to 1,609,528 = 1943

Remington Rand: S/N 1,743,847 to 1,816,641 = 1944

Remington Rand: S/N 1,890,504 to 2,075,103 = 1944

Remington Rand: S/N 2,134,404 to 2,244,803 = 1945

Remington Rand: S/N 2,380,014 to 2,619,013 = 1945

I have an Essex made 1911, upper and lower and is stock and is one of THE best shooters around.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:27 PM
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It seems to good of a build for a slapped together parts gun.

Yeah. It's probably a POS. I'd be happy to take it off your hands and give you what you have in it. "Just because I'm a nice guy."

And a jealous guy.

Way to go,dusty! Good pull,man.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:34 PM
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in case you guys are wondering I paid $400 out the door. it was a good deal in my eyes
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:48 PM
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dusty,you have good eyes,IMHO.

I would be tickled PINK to find a deal/gun like that.

P I N K .

Happy shooting!
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:48 PM
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Interarms Remington Rand 1911

I've been watching this thread for the past few months, trying to find out more information about the same gun that I have. Gunsmiths (or at least those posing as them at retail shops) have told me my Interarms 1911 is worthless because no one can find any information on that manufacturer. Funny, since I found this thread with a simple Google search.

Anyway, if anyone can tell me where I could get rid of my 1911, I have no use for it. It's too heavy to use as my primary carry, and I'd sooner invest in smaller, easier-to-conceal semis. My setup is the same as that listed in this thread, only its serial number is 06xx. And it has a short-pull trigger and Pachmyr grips.

This may be a shot in the dark, but if anyone knows of someone looking for this type of handgun, please let me know. Thanks everyone.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:42 PM
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I have one of these pistols and mine is awesome. its S/N is SC-02XX and is valued over $1500 all of these pistols will become priceless..
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:34 PM
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Interarms 1911A!

I bought a silver cup just like the the OP has pictured in 1977, I have carried it, shot it in IPSC, and have run thousands of reloads thru it with 230 gr RN and 190 /200gr SWC's.....It has never required any more maintainance than any other of my service grade 1911's that I have run a lot of rounds thru....Interarms was bringing these guns into the country in the latter part of the 70's....I still carry it and still shoot the pistol....I paid $175. for it back then, and I certainly got my money's worth. Enjoy your pistol.
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:19 PM
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Silver cup / Interarms

These guns were brought into the country in the latter part of the 70's, built using surplus Remington Rand slides, GI 1911 components and the slide with the "silver Cup" markings.....I bought one in 1977....I shot it for years in IPSC in the 70's & 80's....I have shot this pistol more than any of my other 45's, and I still shoot it today.......they sold for $175. back in 77.....mine has served me well, I did install a long trigger, ext slide release and an MMC adjustable rear sight on mine....mine will shoot anything I load into it....and will hand cycle empty brass.....enjoy your pistol.
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