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Old 01-17-2009, 08:11 PM
HotRodColt HotRodColt is offline
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ball cuts on a 1911 slide?




has anyone had ball cuts done to there 1911 slide?

I have seen it in pictures a few times, but now that I am looking for them, I can't seem to find them!

Anyone know a smith who does it?

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Old 01-17-2009, 08:26 PM
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Almost all my guns have the ball cut. Every smith that I know of with a milling machine offers them. Since they are cosmetic and the cost of the milling does not involve the refinishing I usually have them done with I have other items done or the gun is being built.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:06 PM
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my 1911 is stainless, so a little polishing is all the is necessary.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:24 PM
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Different strokes; different folks....

Not to knock anyone else's pistol but I fail to see why anyone would want this. The classic lines of John Browning's 1911 looks better to my eye than a ball cut.

Cosmetic fluff adds more cost to the pistol and gets you nothing in function.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:29 PM
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I'm just learning, so what is a ball cut?
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:32 PM
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They look like this..




combined with high power cuts they take on an even cooler look..



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Old 01-17-2009, 11:33 PM
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Not to knock anyone else's pistol but I fail to see why anyone would want this. The classic lines of John Browning's 1911 looks better to my eye than a ball cut.

Cosmetic fluff adds more cost to the pistol and gets you nothing in function.
Aw, come one Randy. That statment is like saying " Why would someone want air condition in a car? All it does is make the car burn more gas ". What would you rather go out on a date w/ your wife or girlfriend? Looking like she does when she gets up in the morning? Or after a little cosmetic fluff?

Sometimes I kinda like fluff. W/ fluff everything that everyone owns looks the same. R.K.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:41 PM
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Aw, come one Randy. That statment is like saying " Why would someone want air condition in a car? All it does is make the car burn more gas ". What would you rather go out on a date w/ your wife or girlfriend? Looking like she does when she gets up in the morning? Or after a little cosmetic fluff?

Sometimes I kinda like fluff. W/ fluff everything that everyone owns looks the same. R.K.


Like I said, "Different strokes...."

An air conditioner has function.

But I'll take my women without caked on makeup and heavy eye shadow.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:42 PM
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Thanks, hooks, your are right, very nice look!
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:58 AM
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I personally think the 1911 looks so much better without the ball cut. In fact, I would never buy one like that.

But I feel that the best looking 1911's on earth are the bone stock mil-spec ones.
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:19 AM
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I haven't had the "Ball Cut" done on my 1911's - as I prefer to let them breed.

Sorry - I'm bad,bad,bad
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:34 AM
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This will be the only fluff on this gun...

I've always liked them, figure I might as well indulge myself a little bit...
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:25 AM
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I personally think the 1911 looks so much better without the ball cut. In fact, I would never buy one like that.

But I feel that the best looking 1911's on earth are the bone stock mil-spec ones.
agreed
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:33 AM
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I have noticed that the original 1911 had what looks like a ball cut, but the radius was not as sharp as the cuts I see now. The cuts that are offered by current smiths appear to have a tighter radius than the original cut.


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Old 01-18-2009, 10:34 AM
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Not to knock anyone else's pistol but I fail to see why anyone would want this. The classic lines of John Browning's 1911 looks better to my eye than a ball cut.

Cosmetic fluff adds more cost to the pistol and gets you nothing in function.
Hi, Randy! Big Jon here from the Montgomery, AL "Practical Rifle" class a few years back. Good to see you postin!

You nailed it with "different strokes." Funny how these conversations seem to pop up every now and then with the "pure functionality" folks on one side and the "and looks great too" folks on the others. I can see how you'd be in the former group - being the thorough HSLD guy you are. Me, well, as I'll bet you remember from the course am only "MSLD" (Moderate Speed, Lotsa Drag). That, plus the fact that I enjoy tinkering and learning how to work on 1911s puts me in the latter category.

Hooks - Thanks for posting the photos of Mr. Bryan's work. I had not thought of him in awhile. I bought for next to nothing a few welded up old Colt take-off barrels from him awhile back to practice barrel-fitting on, and he seemed to be a very nice person. Also, lots of folks out there are really out on the edge when it comes to carvin' up pistols with a mill. IMO, only a small percentage of them are also able to ride out on that edge but in a tasteful and beautiful way, including the well-known who post here regularly, and others who don't, including Mr. Stan Chen and Mr. Bryan. So, enjoyed seein' photos of his work again. Thanks for postin' 'em!

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Old 01-18-2009, 10:49 AM
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HI Big Jon,

Yea, Brian's work is really nice and It surprises me that he's still available for full house custom builds, better get in line the door will probably shut soon.... Just looking at his photo gallery will have to do for me....
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:26 PM
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I haven't had the "Ball Cut" done on my 1911's - as I prefer to let them breed.

Sorry - I'm bad,bad,bad
Now that is a funny line and as the cable guy sez, I don't care who you are!!!!


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Old 01-18-2009, 07:35 PM
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Are ball cuts the same as Leibenburg cuts?
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:44 PM
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I think they are butt ugly.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:05 PM
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The classic lines of John Browning's 1911 looks better to my eye than a ball cut.
Like 'em or not, the ball cut is older than the gun and original to Mr Browning and Colt.
Developmental Colt-Brownings of 1909 and 1910 have ball cuts.
The very first 1911s do, too.
I found a picture of SN 5 and it has a spring tunnel shape kind of intermediate between the ball cut and the "standard" style.
Springfield Armory manufactured 1911s have ball cuts.
The original Colt ACE has ball cuts.

Strangely, the factory ball cuts of yore do not align with the end of the dust cover like recent gunsmith jobs.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:26 AM
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:38 AM
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same song.....different verse.
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